# Quitting carnivore, liquid farts 💨💨💨

#21

Have u tried Miralax…not a stimulant and used after bowel surgeries…may take a day or 2 to work, but it is a safer option…goodluck and I hope those fiery pits of Mordor calm down

(Keto Koala 🐨) #22

Thank you!!! Yeah I gotta avoid enemas or I’ll get a burning ring and I don’t want my ring destroyed in the pits of mordor. I’m quite happy keeping my one ring. :scream::joy::ring::ring::ring::fire::fire::fire:. It’s My precioussssss. Ok tell me to stop please!!! P.S, I’m trying movicol, that might be similar to Miramax I’ll look it up.:blush:

(VAL) #23

I would drink some salty bone broth or just broth. Sodium is what regulates our bowels, not fiber or water as people often believe. (You need extra sodium on keto, drink salty broth twice daily) Hope you feel better soon!

(Keto Koala 🐨) #24

Thankyou this is the third time today that bone broth has been mentioned. I have a really bad stomach ulcer too and somebody said bone broth is good for that took thanks Val. My grandma is called Val too.:blush:

#25

A gross topic, but I’d like to open up to tell you that it gets better. Then again, it sounds like you had problems related to this before keto, and I can’t speak to that.

As my handle suggests, I’ve been at this now for more than a year and a half. I eat a pretty strict keto diet that’s mostly animal products (exceptions: nuts, tea, coffee, kimchi, wine, flax, and 100% unsweet chocolate) and I try to do a 48-hour fast (or thereabouts) each month.

The outcome: one very large and perfectly textured movement each day, usually in the late morning. Not trying to be gross, but it’s nearly always big and heavy enough that I feel like I’ve accomplished something when I’m done, I marvel that it ever fit in my gut. But it’s also never difficult to expel – indeed, the only plumbing I ever have to worry about is inside my walls. I have to plunge a lot more often than I like, but it’s a small price to pay for being evidently healthy.

Anyway, it’s been that way for the better part of a year, except on rare occasion – almost always the day after a carb-laden cheat meal (softer or even liquid) or drinking too much non-carby alcohol (harder).

Still, looking back, there were moments there – not at the very beginning, but maybe a couple months, about where you are – where I was experiencing the liquid problem. I remember it lasting for a long time – I didn’t keep a poop diary, but maybe months. Some days it was downright annoying.

I’m not exactly sure what fixed my problem, but a couple of possible game-changers were (1) my quitting vegetable oils and paying attention to omega ratios beginning a few months into keto, (2) more salt – taking 1/2 tsp of salt in every kettle of tea that I drink (I drink 2-4 kettles per day), (3) cutting back on leafy greens to more reasonable levels than the 6-8 cups Dr. Berg had recommended. I just started adding teensy amounts of KCl (NuSalt) into some kettles of tea as well instead of trying to get my 5,000 mg of potassium all from food.

I’m not 100% sure what did it, but these are all possibilities as I look back.

Another possibility is that it just took time. My gut needed to adjust to the new food I was giving it. The new bacteria were at war with the old ones, and ultimately, once they won out, I achieved the (frankly astonishing) regularity I enjoy now.

(Keto Koala 🐨) #26

It’s not gross, we all crap, we all fart!!:joy::joy::joy:. I would love to have a good big heavy crap once a day, but yeah I’ve always had issues. My Mother craps like twice a day!!! Hahaha I’ve also had largies block up the toilet. Thus was before Keto. Had to call the plumber and yup the dreaded plunger. Or even worse, I would fight it with a stick. I kept a long stick by the toilet and bash the bastard until it flushed. Not very pleasant and probably too much info… oh well, I think I’m well past the TMI stage on this thread. I do interminant fasting as I eat OMAD And i love my salt. I am mainly animal products but I do enjoy a few plenty things. I’m very big on iceburg lettuce. It’s sweet and filling and very low in carbs. Thanks for the info. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

(Keto Koala 🐨) #27

We have lift off!!! I finally gave birth in the morning at around 8am. There were LOTS of labour pains and a lot of pushing but " Crack baby" was born. He only had a face a mother could love!!! :fearful::scream::nauseated_face::joy::joy::joy::joy::poop::poop::poop:

#28

Aaahhh… Those battery acid poops!
Bile malabsorption most probably. Did you not have SeHCAT test after your colostomy reversal?
I had loop ileostomy for about 11 months and was unlucky enough to experience the occasional ‘shart’ too. There’s some medication that’s used for cholesterol that can help but I can’t remember what it’s called. Apologies!

(Keto Koala 🐨) #29

No I don’t think I did. What’s a loop ileostomy. Is that the same sort of thing?? Where you have a stoma sticking out with a bag?? Ain’t it horrible to fart out of your belly in public and not be able to control it.:weary::flushed:

#30

A loop ileostomy is a temporary one. Literally a loop out of the skin with a hole (I think there’s actually two…) cut into it which drains into a bag. When you’re healed the hole(s) are then stitched up and the loop is tucked back inside you. It’s a temporary fix to let your bowel heal.
Unfortunately, as it’s higher than a colostomy, the contents are VERY liquid. My stoma behaved like a naughty child which had a mind of its own and tended to squirt alarmingly whenever I was changing the bag.
I can fully appreciate why some people give theirs stomas names!
I was lucky that I was able to manage it fairly well and it didn’t affect my life too badly.
I didn’t get problems with uncontrollable farts - probably because it was higher up. Only one weird experience which was on a flight and it kept filling with air every 5 minutes and needed deflating. The other passengers were giving me weird looks due to the high level of toilet visits.
The only real downside was that I had to get up every two hours through the night to empty it. That was difficult as I never felt rested but the alternative was pretty grim… I went back to sleep once without getting up and the result was what can only politely be described as a devastating mess! Happy days!

#31

I feel your pain!:grimacing:

(Keto Koala 🐨) #32

OMG I gave mine a name too. People thought I was weird. Mine was called " Edga" what was yours called?? I used to talk to mine.:flushed::scream::crazy_face::joy::joy:

(Keto Koala 🐨) #33

I totally get it. Mine would fill up with air too. I hated it. Mine would also go all liquid when changing the bag. It would waste a whole bag.:pensive:. It was such a horrible process to change wasn’t it. With scissors and a nappy bag all ready and stuff. It hurt when I had to clean it in the shower and sometimes it would be naughty in the shower. People turned away from me because of it. I can relate. It’s very embarrassing, but I too used to wake sometimes in the morning with shit leaked on my top. I hated it so much. I had it from 22 to 23. We are lucky we got rid of them. I feel for people that have to have them for life. That’s why I get scared when I’m constipated, cos doctors said if I got to.compacted too often, i would have to have another one. I couldn’t deal with that. It’s nice to chat to somebody who can relate.:heart::heart:

#34

I totally agree that we’re lucky to be rid of the bag! It’s such a taboo subject and most doctors don’t know enough to be able to advise how to deal with them. I was lucky I found a supplier who gave free extras like mattress covers, hand sanitiser etc.
The most bizarre thing was that minutes before the operation they asked me where I wanted it sited. I had no idea where would be best and ended up having the stoma right where the waistband of clothes went. So if it was tucked in my clothes it was prone to rub and make it leak. I spent 11 months walking around with a bag of liquid dynamite flopping over the top of my jeans. Nasty!
The bloody thing only ever leaked if I was going somewhere special like a meal out or party and, when it did it, took the skin off my stomach.:roll_eyes:
Mine was generally called ‘Fecking Nuisance’. It was a love/hate relationship…
I did come across people via forums etc who said that having a stoma totally transformed their lives for the better. So pleased for them that they got their lives back but I’d rather not have that experience again if I can help it. Funny thing is that I never, ever thought that one day I’d appreciate actually being able to take a proper dump again! How weird is that? :crazy_face: