Question on breakfast

(Chris Kornelsen) #1

I’m finding it hard to find out how beneficial or non beneficial breakfast is. I grew up with it being the most important meal of the day and I’ve had breakfast at 6 or 7 am sinxe I was 10. Now I do IF and I eat st 930 but I’m wanting to do 18/6. Problem is I need to have supper with my family. So most sources say breakfast is super important and good quality food in the morning g helps cortisol and hormones etc etc. Any info on if pushing breakfast to noon or 1 is worse then eating early?

(Bob M) #2

I usually don’t eat breakfast. Like you, I ate breakfast for years, until I started IF. Like you, I also have to eat with my family, and we eat later at night. So, I don’t eat breakfast and eat instead when I’m hungry, then with the family. I usually eat two meals per day.

(Chris Kornelsen) #3

Ya I’m ravenous at 8 am. So I’d have to willpower pushing till noon till my body is used to jt. But I dont wanna do that if breakfast is the healthiest time to eat

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #4

The importance of breakfast is an idea that originated with breakfast cereal manufacturers over a century ago. If you are hungry, eat. If you are not hungry, don’t eat. At some point, you will most likely find yourself naturally slipping into a patter of eating only once or twice a day. If that hasn’t happened to you yet, don’t force it.

(Chris Kornelsen) #5

4 months in and I still wanna snack ans feel hungry for most kf the day. As stated I’m ravenous by 8 am. Then hungry again at 1 or 2 then again at supper and again at night. Possibly the hunger isnt true hunger and more habits? I feel that would have corrected months ago tho

#6

Agree! Eat when you’re hungry! I am usually hungry between 8 & 9 so eat breakfast then.

(PJ) #7

Chris, I’m inclined to think if your body really is hungry that it’s better to eat, and work with the body not against it. You could be right that it’s long-term habit of course.

In this video, which I linked to the place in the middle where it mentions this, it is looking at the ghrelin levels of people fasting, this will cause hunger, and how they shift in accordance with when they expect food.

(Full Metal KETO AF) #8

https://idmprogram.com/the-critical-importance-of-meal-timing-for-weight-loss/

I believe in breakfast, it’s important to me. I eat the bulk of my food at 9-10am. I eat supper at about 2:30pm. I fast the rest of the day. If you like breakfast maybe just sit with the family and have tea or something. It’s the time together that’s important, not whether you’re eating food. This is the eating pattern that Dr. Fung recommends for optimal weight loss. Keeping insulin low while you sleep, burn fat and get some autophagy over night. This is optimal for me also sleeping with an empty stomach means better sleep for me without my body dealing with digestion. So yeah, for me breakfast is the most important meal of the day when I do heavy protein / fat consumption for use throughout the day. I hate that stupid cereal analogy. Show me the science please. And children need breakfast so it’s pretty important for them. I also believe it’s healthy for adults. :cowboy_hat_face:

(Bob M) #9

I’ve lost over 60 pounds and gained about 10 pounds of muscle…while not eating breakfast for most of the time that transformation has occurred.

I don’t think breakfast is necessary for anyone.

Can you find studies indicating that eating earlier is better? Yes. Does it matter? Maybe, maybe not.

(traci simpson) #10

Do children really need a breakfast of pop tarts, toast, cereal and juice? I’m not saying they don’t need to eat and they should. However, breakfast is a break from a fast. A fast that I’m sure ends before bedtime so breaks once they eat again. I do believe cereal companies use this more so to make money than anything else. I was a breakfast person and advocated it to my clients (personal trainer) because "its the most important meal of the day and it gets your blood pumping etc. It’s just that now, my breakfast could be at noon, could be at 11am, could be a 4pm. It’s when I break my fast.

(Scott) #11

I eat breakfast daily because I enjoy it. I don’t think it is any more or less important than any other meal. It was something that came out of some marketing dept.

(Full Metal KETO AF) #12

I never said everyone has to eat their breakfast. And for simplicity let’s assume for the moment we are talking AM and not whenever you “break your fast”. I also never implied children should be fed crap first thing in the morning.

What I do works for me. Others find what works with your family, job, social life, weight loss and metabolic repairs. There is some interesting stuff in the article that I posted and even though Dr. Fung says it’s optimal it doesn’t fit with his family life. Though he does show some science to back up the efficiency of an early compared to a later eating window with IF in keeping overall insulin response at it’s lowest. I fell naturally into it before reading Dr. Fung’s article. I started dropping lunch. Then I started eating dinner earlier. :cowboy_hat_face:

(Chris Kornelsen) #13

Ya I would love to have my 6 hour windows from 7-1 but 1. I am in construction and taking two full meals tk work and eating them there is hardly practical especially if its whole foods. And 2. My family supper time is sacred to me. So I’m gonna try the 12-6 style and see how I feel.

(Jane) #14

My husband couldn’t imagine not eating breakfast - ever. Not because of a cereal company slogan, but because he was always hungry when he got up.

It wasn’t until he started fasting after being on keto for nearly a year that his morning hunger started to subside. He can’t go for more than 36 hours fasting because he doesn’t have the fat stores to do it.

It took nearly 18 months before he realized he wasn’t hungry many mornings and started skipping breakfast. Some days he is - and he eats.

There is also something to the hunger response at meal times because I experience it when fasting for multiple days. Like clockwork I get hungry at noon and 6 pm, which is when I typicially eat. It’s not the ravenous hunger I had pre-keto, but still hunger.

Also - I have a fatty coffee in the morning with butter and HWC and I believe that contributes a lot to me not needing to eat until noon.