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(Arpie Toone) #1

Hi Guys, Iā€™m Jeff. Iā€™ve been trying to get use keyto but just go up in weight. Iā€™m just eating meat, foul and some dairy (cheese) and Iā€™m putting on weight. I just donā€™t get why. I eat what I think is a small amount. Thanks for your feedback. :sob::sob:

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #2

Welcome :grin:
Thatā€™s a mistake Jeff. I know it sounds crazy and on this way of living most things are the opposite to mainstream thinking.
It works like this. You eat a small amount and your body thinks your starving so it stores fat to get through the bad times.
You eat meat until you are full and your body will burn fat. Thatā€™s what Keto is. Fat burning. Fat is fuel.

(Ethan) #3

Stop the cheese. What are you drinking, and how long has it been

(Bob M) #4

Some people do have a problem with dairy. And some of the ā€œketoā€ meals are heavy into cream, cheese, etc. When I started out, I ate a lot of this stuff, but then went to lower fat keto, and that helped.

#5

How much do you eat and how quickly you gain weightā€¦
Though if you think itā€™s not much food, it may be truly not muchā€¦ And you canā€™t make energy from a lack of energy, clearly but itā€™s a bit tricky as eating too little tends to slow your metabolism and it may go down too much and may be reluctant to go back quickly, I think thatā€™/s why certain people have problems with fat-los even when eating little. I never had this but my metabolism happily quickens if I eat much and itā€™s not like I ever underate for long.

But maybe itā€™s a tiny amount of weight so maybe donā€™t even gain any fat just think soā€¦? We have not enough information hereā€¦

Dairy may be a problem for some people. It shouldnā€™t keep you from losing fat when not eating much but humans are complicated.

I wouldnā€™t trust myself with guessing what is the right amount of food for me, maybe you are better at it but I donā€™t know you. Carnivore food can be super calorie dense, I easily overeat if I eat too much of my potentially wrong items (most dairy, very fatty meat, fowl). But even I rarely consider that amount smallā€¦

There are so many factors that can interfere, not just dietary ones :frowning: But not losing when eating little sounds quite unusual, itā€™s more common simply not losing as far as I knowā€¦ And gaining fat means you eat at a surplus, itā€™s inevitable so I would expect it came from seriously undereating for too long in the past resulting in unusually slow metabolismā€¦

(Arpie Toone) #6

Hi there thanks for your replies. This is very strange because I have had a gastric sleeve done some years ago. This means that I have a tiny stomach just 15% of what it was and all I can are tiny portions. I typically eat a quarter chicken and Iā€™m stuffed. Although I do eat cheese and eggs but not in any great amount. Now and again I will have some cream in my coffee and I have entirely cut out sugar from my diet I havenā€™t eaten a piece of chocolate or sweets or beer, anything like that for years I just donā€™t like that stuff and I donā€™t have a sweet tooth. And thatā€™s really about it and I just canā€™t figure it out what Iā€™m doing wrong. Iā€™ll have three or four rashes of bacon for breakfast and maybe three or four eggs along with that and a coffee and thatā€™s really all lll eat all day long

(David Cooke) #7

Different strokesā€¦for me, a quarter chicken and four eggs seems like a lot, and I consider myself a long distance runner. I see you avoid the alcohol question; so did I when I started. Good luck!

(Arpie Toone) #8

Hi David thanks for your reply. I never avoided the alcohol question I just missed it really. Because of my stomach operation I canā€™t drink anything gassy so if I do drink which isnā€™t often, i drink spirits which are very low in everything including calories in fact they are zero carbs and if I have a mix of with that that would be orange juice or squash or something like that so still very little of anything there. I think you misunderstood me I donā€™t eat the chicken and the eggs all together thatā€™s a daily intake. I just have the chicken on its own and the eggs and the bacon and this would be something Iā€™d have at breakfast so I hope that clarifies things anyway thanks for your reply and helping me try to figure this out.

(Peter - Don't Fear the Fat ) #9

I think you probably need more fat. Keto means fat burning right? Chicken is very lean. Do you like beef, lamb or pork?

#10

Thatā€™s very little food from my viewpoint (later I calculated, itā€™s truly not much). A decent amount of protein, probably (depends on the size of the chicken and itā€™s not like I can guess well these things but it canā€™t be very little*) but as @Pjam wrote, not enough fat.
Chicken is somewhat fatty (unless the skin loses most of the fat as it does when I finish it in the air fryerā€¦ or if one buys chicken only having half of its skin, I saw that in legsā€¦ the quarters I buy have it all and chickens are sometimes quite fatty here anyway with lots of visible fat) but that alone is not enough for most people on keto.

*I looked it up. The biggest chicken leg I ever had contained about 70g protein. Nice start. And only about 500 kcal? Yep, very little food, even with 3-4 eggs and some bacon, itā€™s not much.

(Bob M) #11

For your situation, maybe you need higher concentration of calories? Like nuts, cream, butter, sour cream, etc?

(Arpie Toone) #12

I always buy the largest chickens usually coming in around two kilos each and I just cut them up into quarters and put them in my halogen oven. I do eat nuts I buy almonds which I let soak in salty water for a few nights and again I put them in my halogen oven and I roast them theyā€™re actually really nice but I understand Iā€™m not supposed to eat too many of those about 30 a day so I donā€™t go over the top and thatā€™s really it

(Arpie Toone) #13

Bearing in mind although that would be my total intake for the entire day so itā€™s really very little. A quarter chicken 3 eggs and a few rashes the bacon for a whole day thatā€™s really not a lot of food so I would have thought that it would really make some difference but it doesnā€™t seem to. On the other hand there are suggestions here that it may well be too little fat Iwho knows? Iā€™m still trying to figure this out, thanks again.