Protein myths

(mole person) #28

That was an excellent description. I’ll post some of my thoughts tomorrow. I wonder if we should start a new thread though as this may be a hijacking of Anita’s.

(DougH) #29

That would be a good idea.

This link may share some on my opinions on protein consumption, and will bring us back on topic for Anita’s original question.

Muscle Growth Science, mTOR & Leucine w/ Gabrielle Lyon, DO

(Anita Huska) #30

Well I tried higher amounts of protein, not working I just want to lose a small amount, don’t want to gain muscle its the fat that I do have I need to lose, so many are heavy and losing so fast, I am not losing like that, like I said, can’t do the amount of exercise, because of health issues. I stick to 52 grams of protein about 26 grams per meal for the two meals, I am doing, mixing them up now twice a week by having breakfast fasting till dinner. I got the macros set and the fat is at 73 percent, net carbs at 6 percent I been doing allot of research on keto and it seems that most say 52 to 54 for protein which was my biggest worry. I thinking it must go by calories also, used to eat a lot less when I was trying to lose on other diets! The more I read the more I learn that calories are okay, but not less than 1200 to lose and stay healthy. I try t for a couple of weeks and see, hoping it works, normally I just fast the same from 7 pm to 1200 or later, then eat again between 6 to 7 finish before 8 pm, I do find though I get hungry at night sometimes even if i fill up on dinner so not sure what I can do about that, When I mentioned about changing it up just so my body doesn’t get too used to one way and stop totally losing although its not losing fast as I mentioned in other replys, If anyone has some even more ideas I open to try without going down to one meal feel free to reply,.

(mole person) #32

@Anita_Huska You’ve been on keto for 2 months so you are fat adapted. That means you don’t have to eat all the fat in your fat macro. Just add enough at your meals to reach satiety. The way keto works is as your appetite becomes supressed you can eat less fat and have your body consume it’s energy from your body instead. You say you’re hungry at dinner though so I wouldn’t eat less at that meal at this point.

Do you track? Can you give a sample of a day’s food with the macro and calorie break down?

(mole person) #33

I just clicked on the last video link you posted. I’m going to watch it with my morning coffee. It’s right on topic of my current interests. Thanks!

(Robert C) #34

This study is nutrition-only focused (if I was cynical I would think maybe to support a product or supplement - studies about things that cannot be monetized are rarely funded):

  • “As a modifiable risk factor, nutrition is a potential target to improve or prevent the loss of physical function in older adults”
  • “This narrative review aims to examine the recent observational and interventional evidence on the associations and the role of these nutrients in the muscle mass, strength, mobility, and physical function…”

Unfortunately, it is focusing on fixing the symptom (reduced muscle in the elderly) instead of telling anyone how to avoid that situation.
It is like telling someone that just drove off of a cliff that their best bet for survival is to call their friends and have lots of mattresses placed where they are going to land.

Building muscle and balance through strength training and functional exercises BEFORE you are using a cane, avoiding outside activities, having to use a wheelchair or being placed in an “old folks” home is key.

Protein Myths: Continued
(Anita Huska) #35

I use carb manager imcan try to send a report, but my not work if not my macros i can give. i copied report into the e mail i get messages from in here but not sure if you will get it, Here is my macros for a typical day. 6% net carbs, = 18 grams of net but dont use all very often, 16% protein = 52 to 55 grams try not to go over, 93 grams fat out of 113 but dont go that high all the time i eat till i full when i said that i still hungry i meant after dinner sometimes a couple of hours later, or when i get up at night a big downfall.

(Anita Huska) #36

The more I read about how much I thinking moderation for protein.

(Anita Huska) #37

I am not in ketosis anymore just to add

(mole person) #38

How are you measuring and what is your result?

(Anita Huska) #39

A very small trace 1.4 to 1.6

(mole person) #40

Those are perfectly normal levels on a ketogenic diet. some people never see values higher than that unless they’re deep into an extended fast.

(Running from stupidity) #41

“Measuring” causes so many more problems than it solves.

(mole person) #42

@Anita_Huska You just can’t expect very rapid results at your size. Losing those last ten pounds took me most of an entire year. You are clearly going for a very slim physique and a ketogenic diet on it’s own is really a metabolism fixing diet. If your metabolism is fine then you won’t lose much with this way of eating by itself. You may have to make one or more changes to the diet to lose those last ten pounds.

(Anita Huska) #43

It is only 10 pounds total, so what about my macros I doing I sent in a reply, do you think its good or?

(mole person) #44

What I meant was you are trying to go from 115 lbs to 105 lbs. That may be only ten pounds but it’s not the same ten pounds as someone who is going from 300 lbs to 290 lbs.

When I got to that point in my weight loss I HAD to go to OMAD, 16:8 didn’t work for me. Things that help others lose the final sticky pounds include giving up dairy, and going zero carb.

I didn’t get the email with the report of your food logs. Your macros look fine, but I was hoping you could share a day or two of your actual tracking. Can you try and post a screenshot or two from your macro counting app? You can even just type it out.

(Anita Huska) #45

What is OMAD

(Anita Huska) #46


(Running from stupidity) #47

A dumb way of saying 1MAD - 1 Meal A Day

(Anita Huska) #48

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