Please Help Figure Out Why My Family Gained Weight


#1

My parents have been doing a lowish carb diet for the last 1.5 years, after my dad had a heart attack. He is a former T2 TOFI who is now well controlled by diet and no T2 meds although he is still on heart meds, not sure which ones. They are late 70s retired and eat almost every meal out or have a snack of cheese or yogurt or tuna at home. Up until about 6 months ago my dad would eat one slice of bread a day, usually rye or ezekial with breakfast, with maybe a second slice some time during the day. He would usually eat egg white omletes rather than regular every morning for breakfast. He finally gave up the bread and switched to whole eggs and his BG is now close to prefect. 95 in the morning, always under 130 even after a meal.

They went on vacation in a Mediterranean country for a month visiting friends and family. They had access to a kitchen at the houses they stayed but ate out a lot. Breakfast was usually two eggs, various local cheeses, avocado, sour cream and a small salad with olive oil eaten out but later in the morning. They may have a high fat cream yogurt during the day and then dinner varied from fish, chicken or meat in a shish kebab style. They like eggplant dishes and if it was on the menu would eat it. When we visited people who knew about the diet they would be careful to feed us keto. Yet some people did not know and one house we went to there was nothing for me to eat because everything was breaded other than the salad which only had salad in it. My parents still ate some of the food. So they did cheat a bit but it was maybe the equivalent of one slice of bread a day (they called me the food police when I was there!)

They drank two cappuccinos a day MADE WITH MILK (I was there for the first week and this was killing me, there was no place to get cream at any coffee shops, I tried and would buy it at the grocery and make coffee at home). They got home and are complaining that they each gained 10 lbs from the fat they ate! Personally I think it was the milk and the nighttime restaurant food that was not pure meat and salad but was sauces and eggplant. They claimed they did not eat very much because it was hot and all the food they ate was so filling! Classic eh?! Neither one eats pork so bacon is not an option.

In my father’s case he is a TOFI so this may be his weight regulating and he is at the weight he should be. His BG was good throughout the trip. With my mother she can get heavy and has been heavy and lost quite a bit of weight when my father had his heard attack, I would guess about 30 lbs. She still wants to lose more but has been stalled and I would guess her BMI is about 27 but she is an athlete and more muscular than average. She already does something (tennis or swimming) almost every day. I would imagine she exercised less than usual on her trip but they did a lot of walking.

Before they started eating more fat, they were miserable and complaining and saying they had nothing to eat on low carb. Now they were saying they were so full they barely ate but they blame the fat for their weight gain. I think it was probably the milk. A cappuccino is half milk, two a day is probably at least 16 grams of carbs plus they had tomatoes, beets and whatever was in the sauces. They also eat almonds, which are not the lowest carb nuts

I just do not want them giving up and going back to low fat


(Cindy) #2

Hi Saphire,

Your family’s carbs are too high. Carbs are the one thing you have to carefully count or you will never get into ketosis. Milk and yogurt are both very high in carbs. Salad dressings almost always have sugar in them in restaurants - lots of carbs. One slice of bread per day will completely block ketosis - COMPLETELY. If you have this level of carbs in your diet and add in a lot of fats, you will absolutely gain weight. They need to do 2 things:

  1. Count every single carb in all the food they eat.
  2. Get a keto-meter and check ketosis every day at the same time as they check blood glucose. Keto meters tell the brutal truth. Any cheating at all with carbs, you won’t see ketosis.

There’s no need to count fat at all, very little need to count pure protein like meat and cheese. The only thing you do have to count is carbs.

I hope this helps!


#3

Thank you.

Absolutely agree on the milk. Yogurt if it is full fat unflavored is not that high in carbs because supposedly unless you are eating freshly made yogurt, while it sits the bacteria consume the sugar. Plus their yogurt was really high fat and low sugar, plain.

They are not trying to be in ketosis, merely low carb enough to keep their weight stable (mom would like to lose but has accepted this may not happen) and their T2 and A1C in check. Plus they are not willing to write everything down (they are close to 80).

I still have trouble believing that the cup of milk every day (they do not eat salad dressing) was enough to cause the weight gain. Personally I think they cheated more than they realize and already tried to tell them that (I saw a bit of cheating when I was with them, it was small but enough). I would like to be able to tell them that was it and if they cut that and the milk out they should be ok. I really do not want them giving up the fat but they eat out every day and I am not sure how they will be able to control their food


#4

10 lbs of weight gain is probably mostly water retention. I’m not saying they didn’t gain any body fat, but certainly not 10lbs in a month.

It’s the carbs that made them retain water, and it doesn’t take much.


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #5

Yeah, probably slightly more carbs than they are willing to admit to. Higher carb and more fats, especially fats that might not be the best quality ones will cause some gain.
They probably flew over. That causes most of us to retain, that alone has caused me to gain 5 lbs. after a long flight. But it goes away if you just get back to eating right. Maybe suggest they keep the dairy to a minimum and use HWC if they need it for coffee etc.

Deep Nutrition by Dr. Cate Shanahan addresses oils that are vegetable based. Europe has problems with those just like we do, eating out I’m sure they were not getting the best fats.