Do all low carbers feel lousy then? Are people that say they feel less energized when falling out of ketoses less flexible switching between burning fat and glucose, then, or what?
I would like to eat more carbs because I get so constipated on keto. (Thinking oranges in the morning will do the trick.) but I don’t want to feel less energized.
I have been eating keto for a couple of months and I still don’t feel very energized, so I don’t think I have energy to lose eating more carbs. 
No, a low carb diet, and a keto diet with the person temporarily out of ketosis are two very different things. Most low carbers eat around 80-100g carbs a day. Keto doesn’t constipate you, an incorrect keto diet does. Have you posted a couple days of eating to have us take a look and troubleshoot? Fat is VERY good at getting and keeping things moving, let alone things like MCTs.
The constipation is a transitional thing for some people.
I almost quit keto for the constipation, but it went away without knowing the cause.
That what makes me think that it is transitional.
Magnesium should help.
I was low carb before Keto and felt fine. I think for anyone the fewer carbs the better.
I think I get constipated by cheese, but I eat the cheese for calsium because I do not want to eat tofu. I eat 1 teaspoon of MCT oil at every meal + 2 ts of oilve oil. I eat three big salads with oil and meat (120 g chicken or reindeer)/4 eggs/120 g fish. Get 25 g carbs (just from raw vegetables), 110 g protein and 115 g fat. Fatsources are olive oil, butter, cheese, MCT oil. I do take magnesium citrate, I add a lot of salt on my food and I seem to get all the micros I need.
I felt the same way, @Davida, having been in Keto for 6 weeks and still no energy. Then, going off Keto, but staying 50% good fats, 15% protein and 35% good carbs, suddenly after a few days, I felt like SUPERMAN. Had so much energy that I HAD to get up and do something. lol, it was a great feeling. I ate a strict Medit’ diet with those macros, 50/15/35. I still lost 1/2 a week doing this. I ate then and still now, 60-90g of protein a day. People don’t need a super amount of protein. I did and do well on 60g a day.
Course I drank a good colon cleanser several days in a row and that really, really cleaned me out. My colon felt like that of a 19 year old. I had movements 2 or 3 times a day.
Digesting protein demands energy from the body. You are able to eat very little, Davy, I can see, so I can understand the energyboost. And if you ate the same amount of protein on keto as well I think some people get energy boost from fat, others get energy boost from glucose. Just like people are different and get slender eating high carb, others by eating high fat. When I ate a high carb diet (80-10-10)I had a lot of energy, but I did not lose any fat weight after I reached a certain number on the scale with enough glucose available all the time. I ate 5 times a day because I got hungry again quickly so no time was left for fatburning. I am scared of eating moderate of everything. Perhaps the body will use both fat and glucose, but I am too scared to try and risk gaining weight.
Don’t see how some people eat only 1 or 2 meals a day. I eat typically 4 times a day, dividing up my 1850 calories. Works for me.
Keeping your colon clean is a top priority…ask Elvis or John Wayne.
I"m certain that’s where much of it comes from; and the rest from the correct amount of macros. One medical doctor, a cardiologist, still practiced his trade to the age of 90 something and still had plenty of energy to do it. He ate 50% good fats per day. Forgot his name but he wrote papers and a book or two on the subject.
Many people start different diets or ways of eating, and if they’re a good bit overweight, they make the mistake of not doing a colon cleanse first. That should be step number 1. They may have 5, 10, 20 lbs of old fecal matter in their colon and yep, that keeps them from getting the benefits of their diets. Then they quit and blame it on the diet. Lots of good book on colon cleanse. I use this product and it works great. (have tried several) https://www.amazon.com/Health-Plus-Super-Colon-Cleanse/dp/B00H7JNZV8/ref=sr_1_4_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1531596355&sr=8-4&keywords=colon+cleanse+super
That’s a descent amount of oil alright, only other thing you could do is make up some ketoade and hit it hard with the magnesium, which is what I do normally as I’m prone to leg cramping. I make a gallon at a time and usually have 5-6TBSP in there on top of my other mag sources. Plus I make mine a lemonade so I like drinking it a lot.
“Normal” low carb people rarely (if ever) enter ketosis, as there carb intake is high compared to us. When we get used to being in ketosis, then come out we feel more or less hungover and loosing all the perks of ketosis seems amplified whether it be brain fog, headaches, upset stomach etc. For me most times I kick myself out it’s from severe protein overload, I’m in the higher protein camp as I lift 5x week and during the week that’s fine and works out great. BUT on a weekend when I’m not in the gym and can’t actually do something with that type of protein load if I do it anyways I typically feel like crap that night and usually wake up 10+ times that night and feel like I’m on fire and covered in sweat, dried out mouth, headache etc. Sucks to say the least.
When I went really hard core I had the flu for 6 weeks. I took extra potassium, Vitamin D, vitamin C, and a GNC multipack. It did relieve some of the symptoms.
Once I emerged (I believe my body had to burn up all the stored glucose and then I went into withdrawals) I felt like I was 20 years younger. No more body aches, all my joint pain disappeared, and I could think more clearly.
I will make an effort to eat less protein and more fat and see if it helps for both constipation and energy. Made a meal plan now, cutting out dairy completely. Just read that people don’t have what it takes to digest kasein that is in cheese. Perhaps why some get lose, others too hard stool from it.
I take psyllium husk to keep regular. Honestly I’d rather not, it keeps my colon feeling full all the time but it does “move the mail” and make sure things aren’t stagnating or hard (must take loads of water with it, though). It’s not ideal but it’s better than feeling like I can’t go more than once a week. I do think that more veggies and salad (within my carb limits, of course) helps, but it’s not reliable, at least not yet.
I did long stretches of low carb (but not keto) in years past, losing a good amount of weight in the process, and I felt GREAT. No ‘purgatory’, ever. And I found it easier to get the balance right with electrolytes, etc.
For me, it seems that the stricter keto I go, the more challenging it is to get that balance right. Maybe I’ve never really become fully ‘fat adapted’? I don’t know. But as long as I’m feeling good and dropping pounds, I ask myself - does it really matter?
The first time I “cheated” after being in strict ketosis after 3 weeks I chose pancakes, with banana, berries, all the carbs.
I felt the immediate effect 20 minutes later, and stayed that way for a good two days while struggling to deal with the cravings to eat more of it. I hung in there, but I would have to say that how I felt, was probably how I felt all the time being a carb burner.
A good EF and then straight into good foods might be worth a try; kicked me right into beautiful feelings.
But…it’s not a the pink cloud for life I don’t think. You will feel ‘normal’ most of the time.
Yes; most people fat and on high refined carb diets probably do feel like crap (well I did!).