Not coming out of Ketosis?

(Nick) #1

Hey All,

As I posted earlier in the year, I have had a few weekends adding in more carbs (over 50g) and staying in Ketosis when only a couple of days, which I was quite glad of.

Over my birthday last month, I had a whole weekend eating what I wanted and stayed in Ketosis, I was slightly concerned, but I was still eating quite a bit of fat with the carbs.

However, I’m trying to get out of it now to take a break and keep my flexibility and I’m staying in Ketosis.

Friday I got a bad stomach, and eating fat was making it worse. I swapped to eating Congee with chicken stock (rice poridge) as it’s easy to digest. I ate pretty much only that for 4 days. And slowly added in some veg and chicken meat.

This morning I had congee for breakfast. I have had chocolate during the day and for dinner, carbs meat and veg and more sweet / carb just to get my keynotes down.

I just tested my blood and I’m 1.5mmol. which is really high for me. I’m normally .4-.8 on average and push to 1.5-2 when I have had very high levels of fat.

I have been in Ketosis since last August. I also do IF normally 16-20 hours a day, with a few days off.

Is this common?

#2

Once you start digesting carbs, you’re out. That’s metabolic fact. Being out of ketosis isn’t the same as having circulating ketones left over because you haven’t burned them yet. I can eat an Apple Pie and drink some exogenous ketones, I’ll show no shortage of ketones in my blood, and I won’t be anywhere near ketosis.

50g isn’t a lot so no surprise there that you’re still in ketosis eating that amount. The 20g thing is made up, it’s not some magic number. You’re also fasting a lot, those combined are why you’re seeing what you are.

(Bob M) #3

What we need is one of these (a continuous ketone monitor):

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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/19322968211008185

I’ve eaten 100g of carbs on a day I lifted for a while (about an hour) and got blood ketones every time I checked that day, which wasn’t that often. But a meter like what’s shown above might show something different.

Edit: Had ketones the next day too. If I dropped out of ketosis, I didn’t see it.

NOTE: where “ketosis” means any blood ketones.

(Nick) #4

I see, I was under the impression keynotes in your blood was the most accurate way to show you’re in ketosis.

How else can you tell if you’re actually in ketosis?

#5

It is, but you can’t ignore context. What you’ve already made doesn’t just disappear because you ate carbs, they’ll still be in circulation until they’re burned off. No different than carbs/glycogen stored in your liver. Once you make them, they’re there until you do something with them.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #6

  1. Is your carb intake under 20 g/day?

  2. Are you breathing in and out?

If you answered yes to both questions, then you are in ketosis. :grin:

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #7

As others have said you are measuring what you haven’t used up yet.

I can eat 50-100 g of carbs and stay in ketosis, it isn’t uncommon at all.

I am not sure why you are even concerned most posters here want to get into ketosis not drop out of it.

I hope you are enjoying the results of being in ketosis.