Never Thought I’d Ever Be Saying This…

(Geoffrey) #21

No ma’am, I’ll never add carbs back in. I’m committed to carnivore.

(KM) #22

How’s it going?

(Geoffrey) #23

It’s going great. Weight is now stabilizing around 165lbs. Feel great and love eating carnivore. Carbs serve no purpose in my life and fatty meat is all I desire now.

(Joey) #24

Great to hear.

One possibility to consider is that your own desire to weigh a certain amount (which is all about gravity, not body composition) is at odds with your body’s idea of its own ideal composition. :thinking:

If your strength is good (lifting weights, regular exercise, overall stamina) and you don’t have a bulging midriff, plus staying reasonably well-hydrated, then you’re likely taking excellent care of your body.

In which case, might be time to give up on your preconceptions about what you “should” weigh and re-calibrate expectations to what your now-healthy body is finding as its own ideal compositional profile. :+1:

(BTW, whatever you weighed in high school may not be an ideal reference point either. And those “normal weight charts” are representative of a population you definitely don’t want to emulate, regardless.)

(B Creighton) #25

I am just a few years younger than you and about your size. I do OMAD in the winter 3 days a week - on my workout days. But in the evening I eat a LOT - around 80 to 100 gr of protein. It starts with a protein smoothie and then dinner immediately following. This is after my workout. Otherwise I eat two meals per day. I feel I would lose too much muscle if I didn’t eat a breakfast on my standard work days - I am not retired. So, I try to eat a fair amount of fat for breakfast to give my body energy to burn during the day. When I was a teenager I was one of those people who could eat a ton of whatever I wanted, and I wouldn’t gain a pound. That is no longer true, and I know my metabolism is lower. Nevertheless, as we age into our 70s we generally need more protein to maintain our musculature, simply because we become less proficient at protein synthesis. Don’t be afraid to just eat more.

#26

Indeed. I was chubby while my SO had minimal muscle and lots of fat… Reading about high school weights here makes me wonder, apparently most of you had a good figure back then…
But even then, bodies change in various ways. I just will use my eyes to figure out if I reached my goal. If I ever will get anywhere close…

Wow, that’s very little in my world (no matter the fat amount)! I typically eat 130-150g protein for an OMAD meal though occassionally it’s less. I would get hungry around midnight otherwise. It’s the minimal amount, much is on another level… I love protein but I need to minimize it all the time :frowning: It brings way too much fat already, I don’t really like leaner protein so I can’t eat much of it.

I think that’s what my previous dinner is for… As my body passionately hated breakfast all my life (except when I was a very little baby I suppose. sleeping through the night already was impressive from a tiny one) and felt very satiated until about 2pm, I suppose it knows what it is doing. I always have the highest energy level when well-fasted so I do my workouts then. I heard about others like me.
(I don’t have much muscle to worry about but it’s even more reason to cling to the little amount I do have. But I would choose less muscle over the hell that is having breakfast and many other meals all the time. My room 101 can keep that, my life should be different. If I needed food before my workout, I could have a later workout though. I do want all the muscles I can get and that’s not much.)

(B Creighton) #27

It came to me that you might trying eating with a digestive enzyme tablet when you finish. However, I kinda doubt that will stop the weight loss by itself.

(Hansel) #28

@Geezy56 – A thought came to mind since you mentioned weight training above: you could always find a nice and clean protein powder blend (like Transparent Labs, Thorne, Ancestral Supplements) and have a scoop of that blended with some heavy cream following the workout. That would be a nice way to cram some fats and protein in and get those muscles fueled.

I know some people frown on protein powder, and others say there’s no such thing as an anabolic window, but it sounds like you’re going to have make gaining some weight back a full time job and this is one way to help support that goal.

(Geoffrey) #29

Good points. I was just using school as a reference point but yes not really a good one. For one thing I was athletic back then.

As far as goals I didn’t really have a goal set. I figured I’d probably end up around 175 pounds which has always been a normal weight for me in the past. I had read that when eating carnivore that our bodies would settle in to its optimal weight as long as we were eating properly. I was pleased when my weight got down to 175 and then surprised when it hit 170. Stayed there for 3 months and figured that was it, I’m optimal and then out of the blue it started dropping again and then hit 165.
I looked up the weight charts for the average range that a healthy man of my age (68) and hight (6’) should be and 165 was at the very bottom of that range so I decided, maybe erroneously, that I probably shouldn’t go below that number.
I do still have some belly but much of that is loose skin.
I really don’t know what’s right or wrong in this but I’m always open to advice, thank you.

(Geoffrey) #30

I have started doing just that. :+1:

(Joey) #31

Yeah, that’s the hidden issue lurking in such charts. The “healthy average” reflects a population with decades of low level inflammation and as-of-yet-undetected metabolic syndrome having been eating the SAD lifestyle throughout adulthood… their internal conditions haven’t yet manifested in diagnosed disease - hence, they must be “healthy.”

What’s quite possible (as your own shared personal experience can attest) is that you are currently far healthier than the average 68-year old. I’d put money on it.

I know the same goes for me at 67 yrs old - with more muscle, strength, flexibility and stamina than ever before in my life. Even while weighing about what I did in high school (for the first time since then, when I had little muscle mass/strength to offer).

Put differently: the average “healthy” charts are for a different population than us.

Same goes when comparing ourselves to an “average healthy adult LDL level” chart.

Remember:

  1. The average older adult is unhealthy.
  2. What’s more, half the population is below average.

:vulcan_salute:

(KM) #32

Good point. There can be a world of difference between average and optimal!

(Geoffrey) #33

Very good points. I Grok.

#34

It seems there are very few in the middle. There are either the people who exercise several times a week and I include manual labor and gardening in that and “try” to eat healthy even if they are not sure what that means or there are people like the person I saw yesterday in my local grocery store, big guy, 40-50, 250 at least, probably 6’2 with a beer belly who was deciding which large bag of chips to buy. I am sure he is fine for now but who knows what he will be like in 20 years if he continues on this path

I looked up the Met weight tables http://www.assessmentpsychology.com/metlife.htm, for an average woman the max weight in a medium frame is 144, I weigh more than that but I am not sure I would look ok if I lost that much weight even though I used to weigh that in my 20s