Nausea, Heart Burn

(Marianne) #1

I’ve been doing very low carb for over a month now. I am dropping weight, which is great as I still have more I’d like to lose. I am finding, however, that I will have occasional bouts of nausea and heartburn, which is very unusual for me. I used to use Prilosec like an antacid before keto, but haven’t taken it until recently. I don’t have to do it regularly, but had become so rare that I considered getting rid of all of it. Yesterday and Sunday I had nausea during the day, and yesterday I even vomited pretty bad, which never happens to me. I just don’t seem to have that reflex otherwise, and it takes a lot. It was all water, but I felt better afterward.

I’m wondering if I am eating too much fat (?), especially because of the heartburn. I eat no vegetables and my dinner consist of two pieces of some kind of meat, pork or supplemental chicken wings. I’ll sometimes have maybe some bacon, eggs, or a little bit of cheese during the day if I am hungry.

Any insights? Could this have anything to do with brown fat??? I have no idea if burning that causes anything. If this persists, I will see the doctor, but I’m sure he’ll get on me about keto and my cholesterol.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #2

Just my guess. But this was an issue pre-keto that apparently improved with keto. However, it’s a symptom of something unhealthy and it will probably take much longer to fix it completely. Assuming it’s something that can be fixed completely. Keto is not magic nor miraculous. Just biochemistry that helps the metabolism trend towards normal function. When you have your occasional bouts of discomfort take your meds and hope the occasional bouts get fewer and further between over time.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #3

What fats are you eating? Stay away from vegetable oils, since polyunsaturated fats tend to cause nausea (not to mention other problems). Use butter, bacon grease, lard, and tallow instead. If you must use an oil stick to the fruit oils: avocado, coconut, and olive.

It is possible that you might have gall bladder trouble, but this is what I’d look into first.

#4

I never have heartburn but I had a slight nausea when I first tried carnivore, I immediately lowered my fat intake (it was lower than before to begin with but without plants, my food was much fattier) and the problem disappeared. A bit later I could raise it again. So it can be the fat. But I had no other problems and the human body is complex and the same symptom can have so many reasons…
I would tweak my woe a bit to see if something helps.

(Vic) #5

I use to suffer from heartburn severely.
Taking pills after every meal to deal with it.

After starting carnivore it dissapeared completely.

As far as I know heartburn happent when acidity in the stomach is to low, that relaxes the valve to much.

Apple cider vinigar may help ? Its Keto and acidic

#6

I am zero carb but my only heartburn issues ever that arise is TOO much salt----but I am a super salter, I love the crap LOL but I know when I push into too much I can go into big heartburn that is horrible.

So salt for you? Not sure on your intake but could be that situation or a ‘combo of foods you are eating’ are causing cause I don’t know what spices/herbs you are allowing on your food???

like bit of tabasco on something?
more salt than normal cause you want it?
maybe eating some taco spice?
maybe doing some cajun spice?

I don’t know how ya eat LOL but maybe kinda think smaller things like condiments on your food might be your issue?

just a thought to explore for you! Just think how ‘clean’ you are eating ya know. Could be very diff. for each of us.

just a way for you to think of how you are eating and thing is, we need to heal ya know, so could be healing time is a tough time for your tummy thru adaption?

wishing you the best :slight_smile:

(Joey) #7

My suspicion is that your nausea/vomiting is unrelated to low-carb eating. As you have noted, reflux issues tend to be reduced on low-carb, not increased (your experience, mine, and as countless others have reported).

To have vomited “all water” and “felt better” strongly suggests to me this was not related to food recently ingested. More like a virus - stomach flu.

Sudden relief after vomiting water doesn’t even sound like food poisoning, either. It’s usually vomiting the food that provides the relief… not just “water-like” fluid. Of course, as also noted above, if this keeps up, it’s worth checking into further.

Meanwhile, I sure hope you’re feeling better soon! Can you share an update?

(Edith) #8

This is going to sound strange, but it could be your electrolytes. I’ve been on a carnivore trial for the past seven months. About two or three months in, I gave up supplementing extra salt, although I do still salt my food.

Over the past several months, I started getting strange symptoms including heart palpitations/racing heart after eating, especially beef. My nose was stuffing up after eating as well. I was also getting nausea and diarrhea after eating the beef. I actually stopped eating beef. I thought my histamine intolerance had reared its ugly head.

Last week, I was headachy and when I took my blood pressure, it was pretty low: 87/60. I took about 1/8 teaspoon of salt and checked my BP a few hours later. It had gone up to 100/60, my norm.

That got me thinking that maybe I wasn’t getting enough sodium and started back supplementing extra sodium. (Actually, my salt mix is 4:1 NaCl and KCl.) I’ve probably added back in about 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of my salt mix a day.

OMG!!! I feel sooooooo much better! I’m not having strange symptoms after I eat and the other day, I ate a hamburger and felt fine afterwards.

Now, I need to qualify a few more things. I thought the trouble I was having was histamine, so I did start supplementing with Ancestral Supplements Kidney as a source of DAO to help me break down histamine. That has seemed to help somewhat, but it was not the complete answer. It wasn’t until I added the salt back in that I felt better. In fact, I didn’t realized how bad I was feeling until I added the salt.

So, maybe try upping your electrolytes?

(Marianne) #9

I should have clarified, I’ve been on pretty clean keto for over two years and have only cheated once. This is a new phenomenon, that is why I am somewhat perplexed. I felt better yesterday and especially today. Maybe it was a temporary bug.

(Marianne) #10

We do not consume any bad oils and confine my cooking to butter bacon grease, ghee and very little olive oil. I’ve given up consuming mayo for about six months now, once I found out that had bad oils in it.

We eat mainly small amounts of bacon (maybe two pieces a day, if that), all kinds of pork, some of it very rich, steak, hamburger, chicken (seldom), eggs, some cheese, heavy cream. That’s really about it. Luckily, we find enough variety in those choices to pretty much limit our diet to that.

My issues seem to have resolved, however, if they flare again, I am going to have it checked out.

(Marianne) #11

That’s what I did after I had an episode and it seems to have rectified it.

(Joey) #12

Great news! :vulcan_salute: