More BS about KETO I have to say FU


(Carolus Holman) #1

(Lazy, Dirty Keto šŸ˜) #2

ā€œRadical diets like keto bring radical change, and I’m not referring to pounds you might shed from depriving your body of an essential macronutrient; I’m talking about changes in your social world, your relationship with food, and your mental health.ā€

Yes, it has brought a radical change to my weight (52 lbs down), my social world (I actually enjoy being social now), my relationship with food (I actually have a healthy relationship with food now; and don’t obsess over it or ā€œeat my feelingsā€), and my mental health (my anxiety and depression have improved greatly)

Take that, bread :wink:


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #3

The only way bread could make me feel better is if I wiped lidocaine cream on it and taped it to my crap elbow. That’s all it’s good for.


(Consensus is Politics) #4

:exploding_head:

I couldn’t continue past maybe 1/3 of that driveling. Wow. Talk about a lazy approach to an article. Lets just take every negative thing i e ever heard and state it as fact. No references. Either a paid schill, or is losing money on some other diet she invested in, or just a junkie looking to blame anyone else but his/her self (no, didnt get their name or gender, and could really care less).

That article, as much as i read anyway, seemed nothing more than a Troll attempt. Plenty of half truths, and tons of pure lies.

How do we vote that site into the ā€œfake newsā€ category :crazy_face:

BUT!! I do think we need to see these. I dont offhand reject them. I do like to hear out the complaint or debunking. I always say, ā€œquestion everythingā€. Ahem… but thats not what that was. It seemed like an all out attack. No references for negative points, but plenty of name dropping up front (I am assuming these were some kind of well known doctor’s or nutritionists, or ex-spouses, or some guy on a YouTube video. Just because I don’t know or ever heard of them. But no sources for the points that those names dropped were brought to the table.)

When i speak about keto to someone, i do it out of love for my fellow human. How to get healthy, not how to make money somewhere with it. I ususally bring that up right away as well. My personal grocery bill has dropped by at least 50% or more. One of these days I’ll calculate that and have the numbers at the ready. But its about health, not money, thats just one of the side effects, lower grocery bills.

Ok ok ok… I need to force myself to stop before I cant stop raging on that idiot.

[Bob stands up, drops the mic, shakes the tension out like a dog getting out of a river, smiles, and exits stage left.:wink:


#5

I was going to say ranting and raving, but ditto.

If the author had anything of value to say, it was lost on me because of that.


(Cindy) #6

Too funny. She talks about how obsessive she was about just about everything…kettlebells, working out, raw diet, pescatarian, etc, but somehow, because she approached keto with the same level of obsessiveness, it was the bad one.

She even mentions keto as bad because people are trying to sell you something (funny, I haven’t purchased anything extra except some monk fruit and almond flour…found at the grocery store) and yet, she references a person (James Fell) who is trying to do exactly that.

Major editing to fix my confusion about the author of the article.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #7

This is a woman who got into something she didn’t really understand, and she had enough emotional issues that they overtook her. It’s a pity she never found her way here; she might have found a better perspective to work from.


(Cindy) #8

Oh wait, I went to James Fell’s website because the author cited him for reasons why keto is bad. So my argument still kind of holds true…she’s using someone who DOES have something to sell to support her argument that keto is bad.


(Consensus is Politics) #9

Indeed. You saidbit better than ibwanted to. A lot cleaner too! :cowboy_hat_face:


(Consensus is Politics) #10

Makes me want to look him up and email that article to him. :sunglasses: Then stand by and watch. Mwa ha ha :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


(Cindy) #11

In a very slight way, I agree with the author. There’s potential for ANY diet, lifestyle, sport, job, you name it, to be unhealthy. Watch videos about ballerinas or weight lifters or football players or…the list is endless. Ballerinas stay very thin, do lots of damage to their feet, have injuries, etc. They HAVE to be a bit obsessive to be successful. How many football players finish their career with permanent injuries? Brain damage (can we say boxers and MMA fighters?). Little girls doing gymnastics with knee and elbow braces on, weight lifters doing crazy diets to shred before a competition. Ultra-marathon runners with their crazy distances that eventually break them down.

There’s sometimes a very fine line between wanting to be the best you can be at something and crossing over into obsessive and damaging behaviors. Keto doesn’t have the ā€œmarketā€ on that, that’s for sure. Is it any MORE harmful than HCG 500 cal/day diets? Or following point systems? Ordering Jenny Craig because you can’t cook for yourself? Intentionally altering your internal organs (WLS, which I’ve done) to try to lose weight? I don’t think so.

The key, I think, is what you do with it. If your life becomes only about macros, avoiding friends because you might eat carbs, never sharing a meal with someone because it’s a difficult restaurant to be keto, obsessively worrying about every morsel that goes in your mouth or tracking every crumb…then yes, you might be going down a miserable and unhealthy MENTAL path while gaining physical health.

But it’s not the keto diet’s fault if we take it to an extreme. As individuals, it’s our responsibility to ā€œketo sensibly.ā€


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #12

You’re so right. Today my boss cut up a mango and said it was so good and would I like a piece. I instinctively said no and I could see she was disappointed and then I said, yes, I would love to try your mango! And I did and we talked about mangoes for a bit and bonded.


(Cindy) #13

I know some here would be like ā€œNo way, that’s poison to my body and I’m not going to eat it.ā€ and maybe that’s true for some. But I think the human body is amazingly resilient and is designed to be able to deal with a wide variety of situations. It’s why we have protective mechanisms from nose hairs to filter air, mucous to provide a barrier to some invaders, T-cells in our immune system, kidneys and liver to act as filters, etc. Maybe it’s important at the beginning of keto to be super strict to break old habits, see results sooner, get fat-adapted, etc, but over a lifetime…

You should eat the bite of mango. :smiley:


(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #14

Plus, it’s not like she said, here, you want this piece of cake? She was proud of choosing a really nice mango and it’s gray and crappy outside and she brought it in to share and cheer us up a bit. That one small cube of mango sure tasted better than the cake I DID eat two weeks ago!


#15

ā€œI found myself in an All Ages and Genders eating disorder support groupā€¦ā€

Nuff said.


#16

What an incompetent and angry writer. Atleast she’ll be able to afford her bread now. (Hopefully)


(Brian) #17

If I had to pick a one word description for the article it would be ā€œjuvenileā€.


(Sheri Knauer) #18

She sounds like someone who has a lot of issues regarding exercise and food and is blaming that on keto. And did she refer to carbohydrates as an essential macronutrient? Lol.


(Bob M) #19

Unless that would cause a slide into wanting more, which it would do for me. Mangoes are insanely sweet and would set off cravings.

That’s why I limit these types of treats to only special occasions. And I’ve been low carb/keto for 5+ years. You of course might not be like this.


(Chris) #20

What a shit website.