Low Carbohydrate Diets: Understanding the Grim Long-Term Effects


(James Clary) #1

It’s unbelievable the information out there. This website claiming low carb diet increases insulin resistance and leads to morbid obesity, worsening blood sugar, etc. wtf?


(Justin Jordan) #2

I believe that’s a vegan propaganda site


(James Clary) #3

Must be! What drivel.


(Jane) #4

Follow the money. Livelihoods and large incomes affected. Nuff said.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #5

Looks like more vegan propaganda. LCHF diets have shown repeatedly the exact opposite of what this guy claims.


(Jack Bennett) #6

I checked out a few of their articles.

They repeat the mantra that “sugar does not cause Type 2 diabetes - animal fat causes Type 2 diabetes”. I wonder where they all get this particular talking point.

They showed some biomarkers - an already low LDL went down further (yay? Maybe, maybe not), HDL went down (not good).

But they didn’t mention triglycerides at all. Wonder why that was? :joy::thinking::joy::thinking:


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #7

Site is most likely funded by the sugar industry.


(Scott) #8

I am currently reading “The Diabetes Solution” by Dr Bernstein and all I can say is he has been type 1 for over 70 years and his way of approaching diabetes management is the polar opposite of this “study”


(Jack Bennett) #9

In our practice as nutrition and fitness coaches for people with type 1 diabetes, prediabetes, and type 2 diabetes, we find that the most successful way to reverse insulin resistance is to eat a diet containing less than 15% of total calories from fat, which means avoiding animal products like meat, poultry, fish, and dairy products, as well as even what have been deemed “healthy” fats like olive oil and coconut oil.

Under 15% of calories as fat? SIGN ME UP!

Sounds similar to Kempner’s rice diet, which was so enjoyable that he had to whip his patients (literally) into compliance…


(Bob M) #10

I ate less than 10% fat by calories for a long time. Talk about unpalatable!

It might work, though. Very high carb, very low fat can work. It’s just you’ll shoot yourself before too long. And you’ll be hungry pretty much all the time. Or at least I was. You’ll need to eat many times per day.


(Jack Bennett) #11

Dr McDougall is a fan of the rice diet…


(charlie3) #12

It’s occuring to me that Veganism probably qualifies as a cult. Cults can tell transparent lies because they’re only after a few they can control.

May be when politicians flagrantly lie they are relying their supporters to overlook it because they sympathize with the politician’s goals or at least believe they do.


(Bunny) #13

After skimming that article this is where people get confused because they are talking about eating Whole Foods.

Variety is always key in my opinion.

Cut out the refined sugar and processed foods and eat more Whole Foods and it will work just as well as a ketogenic diet.

There is no vegetable that has 0 sugar/carbs that I can find. But the fact remains when you eat less sugar especially the refined stuff, the better off you are and any one following the diet recommended in the article, are probably going to be in a mild state of ketosis which is natural.

Depending on your individual degree of metabolic dysregulation or fitness; a higher fat low carbohydrate diet may be more appropriate until you can handle a higher carbohydrate threshold that is still lower in sugar from highly refined foods but not ideal in the minds of some people because they confuse the word carbohydrate with highly refined and processed foods.

Even if a ketogenic diet is not right for you, simply cutting back the sugar will still be ketogenic.


#14

That article is socially irresponsible clickbait.

judge%20judy


#15

I didn’t read the article (I am not a masochist and it surely would upset me) but I saw this:

No, it doesn’t mean that, have they never heard about lean meat, lean fish, maybe low-fat dairy or small amounts?
Or oily seeds? Avocado?
Many people actually have high-fat plant-based diets or lots of animal products on a low-fat diet.

15% fat is something I can’t comprehend, actually. An early death sounds more tempting than a long life there. I honestly can’t even do it unless I plan and focus ALL DAY (I was very curious once so I had a very low-fat day, it was awful, never again but I have no regrets).
Very much carbs? I did that, for long, easily. I just ate even more fat and protein (in calories and probably) to balance things out, automatically, it was inavoidable, actually. Automatic, seeking balance. And no one ever told me I should restrict my fat intake, at least not until I got 30. It was not that kind of country and time. People normally likes fat here. And I don’t listen to others anyway versus my own body.

Some things just aren’t meant to be. Like me and low-fat. Impossible. My room 101.

It’s very rude (sin or crime would be better words) to advice potentially horrible and harmful things to people. So many people would suffer so much on a low-fat plant-based diet…


(David Cooke) #16

Yeah, and coconut oil is coming under attack again:


“Popular belief”


(Jack Bennett) #17

Well, they’re vegans, so they “have to” recommend no animal foods.

I really want to know how this ultra-low-fat approach works, insofar as it does work.

Re:coconut oil article. It’s 2020 and people are still looking at total cholesterol seriously. :roll_eyes::roll_eyes: