Low carb vs low fat


(Richard M) #1

This article popped up on my google page.


(KCKO, KCFO đŸ„„) #2

More positive than most of the stuff out there. And yes, you have to maintain good habits to keep getting good results. A no brainer.


(Alec) #3

I think anyone following a low fat diet right now to lose weight just isn’t paying attention and hasn’t done any research. All the science points in one direction.

I have done many low fat diets in the past and I was always successful
 until I wasn’t. I remember one particular diet I went on that was ultra low fat
 I remember it well, it tasted like cardboard, and I felt very virtuous! One of my friends asked me: I wonder what that is doing to your insides? But of course I knew better, this was GREAT! I often wonder how much damage that particular diet did to me in the long term



#4

I have no doubt low-fat diets work for some people. Of course extreme low-fat is unhealthy, it’s very basic fat is essential and while we don’t need much, we need some and it’s not super little. Maybe 30-40g is enough for some people, I don’t know but it is already so very low my mind don’t want to go lower and never wanted to research. (My body finds even 80g plain impossible and my mind agrees, low-fat is my room 101 especially with high-carb.)
I never ate food that tasted cardboard but heard it a lot from others, that’s an individual thing. My low-fat items typically tasted wonderful :wink: (And I ate them with or around high-fat things :slight_smile: But it’s me, I tried very low-fat once and that was my worst day eating wise. Egg fast still lost as it lasted for 8 hours only and I tried very hard. in both cases, I was aware it’s low-key insanity but I can be very very curious. Except my keto low-fat days, they were good but let’s keep them sporadic as I am no good with low calorie at all, it works for some people though. But I daydreamed about eating MUCH fat on my 250g fat days before carnivore so yeah, I have this special relationship with it.)
Low-carb isn’t an option for everyone though. They obviously lose fat with some other diet (if they lose fat to begin with but many people do, surely). If they aren’t very unhealthy but determined, I don’t see why would they gain it back
 Or just my SO is that special (he never does low-carb. or low-fat. both sounds quite horrible to him. he tried low-carb, NOPE, it triggers overeating and being unwell).
Each to their own.
Statistics are one thing but we are individuals with individual circumstances, bodies, preferences.

I tentatively believe most people would do better with way lower-carb but plenty of people just wouldn’t. Some wouldn’t even need it as just lower-carb (and better carb as they aren’t all the same) would do good to them. I mostly don’t talk about fat-loss here, though because keto never helped me with that (or low-carb after some time and fat-loss) but that too. It would be good if more people would try out low-carb but if it doesn’t work for them, do something else, sure. I believe very nearly everyone must have a good woe even if finding it may be tricky sometimes.


#5

agree as stated above the article is better than some out there :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

from the article: However, changes were not sustained 3 months after the intervention, suggesting that dietary changes need to be sustained over the long term to maintain effects.

-----so, only 3 months after did all the changes start to recede and weight gain, sugar numbers worse etc. for those who did not sustain the dietary changes.

and key #2 to the whole she-bang is you 're not on a diet to fix things fast, you are on a long term in it for life eating change. Never to be abandoned. I had that mindset before. ‘diet any way one can’ and we get success and get thin but probably not healthy but hey we got thin :slight_smile: and then I was done. I made it. Hit that scale number. Now it was OVER but it wasn’t over as many of us know now. Your eating change must give results and heal/repair and change us and long term lifestyle eating change will do this
to the grave baby if ya want results to stick forever :partying_face:


#6

They’re both just as effective, just depends on how each person does it, how they like to eat, and whether they’re willing (or able) to maintain.

That study, like most, showed absolutely nothing, they went by percentages which don’t work whether LCHF, or HCLF. Having one group eat half their intake in carbs may be fine, or for somebody like me averaging 3500ish cals a day is a LOT! That’s over 400g of carbs, which is a lot even for “normal” carb eater. It’s not even remotely an apples to apples comparison. Not all macros act the same, everybody here knows that. Also, somebody going from a garbage diet to a “diet” will always work, and going back to the diet you started with will always fail.

All comes down to people actually learning their TDEE, learning how each macro acts, and eating the correct amount of each for them. Just as many people fail to lose (and gain) eating LCHF as they do on HCLF, until these “studies” pay attention, they’re all useless.


#7

I agree, I had similar thoughts when I have read the percentages
 And there are so many factors. It’s not even just about the macros, the same macros with different food choices don’t always give even remotely the same result, I experienced that a lot.