Looking back, when did you first see sugar issues, if ever?


(Mother of Puppies ) #1

I searched and didn’t find this topic.

I recall being five y.o. with a cold. My parents had always kept sugar from me, but I was staying with grandma. She gave me a cough drop or two, and I found them and ate them ALL!! It gave me a rash.

In high school I knew I compulsively consumed more candy or sugary fruit than anyone, but it only happened occasionally. I am positive that if Dr. Kraft charted my insulin response, I would be that first, sharpest response. … heavy insulin secreter, quick blood sugar crash, must. eat. carbs. faster.

There have been several instances where my behavior around carbs was clearly disordered. More than several… it was constant!

When did you first show signs of carb/sugar issues?


(Carl Keller) #2

Cavities were the first sign I noticed that sugar is terrible. If enamel is the strongest thing in our body and sugar eats it (actually bacteria that feed on the sugar and whose secretions are acidic and destroys enamel) then it’s probably something we should worry about. Got a few cavities as a kid and more in my teens and 20s but still, sugar was a large part of my diet.

It wasn’t until age 30 that I started gaining a little weight. I was always thin until then and I wasn’t really overweight until I hit the mid 40s. I knew it was the sugar and I did start limiting it around age 40 but the weight kept creeping up on me.


(Marius the butter craving dude) #3

My mother is diabetic for over 20 years. She always was careful and despite going the standard way she kept it under control, low carb(not keto, she did not know about this until I started ), enough to maintain but not heal, she stayed 20 years a pre -diabetic. As she grew me up with her condition she kept me off any sugar. But as a kid I was angry at her, she could tell me anything, that diabetics predisposition is genetic… I was still angry on her that I can not eat sugar as the other kids.
When I got in high school and I received more pocket money… things went south… I mean now I had money… I did not care what my mother told me not to eat all those years. I was revolting against her, normal for a teen… but big mistake to do it with carbs… Steady and surely I got fat.
This previous year I realized I am feeling old at 24… I have no physical condition, I was forced to go even one more number up in clouts. I really started to be scared of diabetes… One month before my official going keto date I just researched nutrition. I suspect now that I was already in mild insulin resistance.
Next phase is for me is to convince my mom to go keto


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #4

Well, I’ve had tooth decay since before my baby teeth all fell out. I remember the dentist telling my mother there was no point filling a particular cavity, because the tooth was going to fall out in a few months anyway.

I used to love to pour salt onto a lettuce leaf, fold it, and chow down, but one evening I hurt the back of my throat with a plastic golf club (don’t ask!) and the salt hurt my throat, so I switched to sugar—and was immediately off to the races. I couldn’t have been older than seven at that point.


(Daisy) #5

My parents didn’t keep sugary stuff in the house on a regular basis. From the time I was just a very little girl, my mom said she would buy something randomly and hide it in the house. I would walk in the door, stop dead in my tracks and sniff the air, then go to precisely wherever she had hidden it and start eating it.

When I was 7, I was caught shoplifting candy from our local grocer. They used massive scare tactics to keep me from ever doing it again. I never did it again lol.

When I got older (probably 10 and up) I would always take my allowance to the dollar store and buy as much sweets as I had money for.

In high school, my dad would give me a dollar a day to buy hot lunch. I bought 2 packages of donut sticks from the vending machine instead. Every day. For 4 years.

It just continued into my adult hood. I would buy/ hide sweets from my husband and binge eat them when no one was around. That was on top of the sweets that I openly bought and consumed moderately in front of others. I would make lbs and lbs of sweets at the holidays, eating my fill in them as I made them, then giving the rest away as gifts.

I tried over and over from my late 20’s through my mid 30’s to give it up, succeeding for a month here, a couple weeks there, always going back. Finally 2 years ago I gave it up for good! I treat it as a drug addiction and won’t take a single bite, for fear of what I know with a certainty would happen.


(Daisy) #6

I have to…


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #7

Well, I’m not telling, so there! :rofl:

Actually, I’m not sure I even remember how it happened, it was fifty-oh-my-God years ago . . . :scream:


#8

I’d say for me there were two phases: the actual abuse of sugar and then the realisation of what I was doing (as well as my body showing me pretty directly).

Growing up I ate as much as any other kid and into my late teens I was a “normal” size. I think at university I started getting exposed to bad choices, started drinking regularly (because that’s how you’d meet people), and ate a lot of carb heavy food, but still didn’t really have a malformed appetite for sugar. Then later, I was a vegetarian and then a full-on vegan. I was pretty hardcore about it, and it was all for reasons of morality rather than health. I mention this because some years later when I went back to eating meat, I was making up for lost time – I had much more of a savoury tooth than a sweet one. I loved burgers, fish and chips, any way I could get meat or fish quickly in big quantities. I think that’s honestly where the downward journey began, because with those fast servings of protein you’d get a lot of carbs, and cravings would go up. Soon I’d be hunting down the best fries and almost treating the burger as a side (weird, I know). If I had a good day, I’d reward myself with a cake or some chocolate. If I had a bad day, I’d make myself feel better with a cake or some chocolate. And ice cream. You get the idea.

Where I ended up was, I felt I was eating a reasonable diet and not in excess, and occasionally treating myself (like I saw everyone else doing), yet my weight was gradually climbing up. It felt unfair, like I was missing something, and there wasn’t anything I could do about it. I never once thought it was tied to excess carb or sugar consumption as I was just eating like everyone else.

That’s when the second phase came in. I must have pushed things way too far because my body started directly telling me I had a sugar problem. I remember it was in the autumn a few years back because I was out with my family picking pumpkins for Halloween. I needed to pee so much during the day that it was weird - I needed to use the bathroom every hour. Just like that, out of nowhere. I remember buying a glucometer and seeing crazy readings, like 300-400 mg/dL after eating “normal” meals. At that point I was doing really [spoiler]fucking[/spoiler] stupid things as well like eating an entire bar of chocolate at night when walking the dogs (those big Lindt bars you can buy) and then drinking a beer when I got back home. Duh.

The peeing was noticeable, I also felt very lightheaded at times and had a few occasions where I nearly passed out just from laughing at something funny. I dragged myself to the doctor, worried, and that’s where everything started making sense and I took things seriously. Sugar was a big problem. I started avoiding sugar in my diet (low carb, not keto) and lost a lot of weight, but gradually sugar took hold again and I piled my weight back on. Then just over a year ago I woke up again, saw my doctor, confirmed I was back squarely where I’d been before, and needed to do something about it. I read up online, discovered keto and the 2KD podcast, and over a few months got the confidence to take the next step. The rest is history.

I really hate sugar and everything it did to me. Even though things are on a good track now, I still think how much better the last decade could have been if I’d never become so obsessed with it.


(Doug) #9

:smile::heart: Paul, we are a crazy group, we humans on this earth, and stories like this (for better or worse) are priceless.

Feels very familiar, Carl. I made it past age 28 before weight gain began. Was around 265 lbs. or 120 kg. in my early 40s but felt fine and thought I was in good health. Really did cut back on sugar, but still was a carb fiend, i.e. pizza, biscuits, pretzels, crackers, chips… 2017 comes and I’m 58 years old, 340 lbs. and Type 2 diabetic. Obviously a lot of denial behind me.

Well yes, Candice, if one or two is good, then all of them is great! :slightly_smiling_face:

Picking blackberries at my grandmother’s house… She was always overweight, never smoked or drank alcohol, lived to be over 100. I’d eat a bowl of berries with white, granulated sugar, roughly equal amounts of both.

Grandma: “You better watch it, Doug, you’ll get fat.”

Doug (8 years old): “I’ll never get fat.”

Grandma: "Oh yes, you could get fat." (She was right.)

My brothers and I, a mercenary army of candy-gatherers on Hallowe’en, vacuuming the neighborhoods clean.

Young adult, working, filled a pickup truck with Pepsi, since it was on sale at the grocery store, 192 bottles of sugar water. Another sale: Reese Cups, 30 for $1.69. I bought like 15 packs of them.


(Katie) #10

When I was five or so (possibly earlier) I noticed I would get shakey if it had been a while since I had eaten. That is how I knew I was hungry. I was a very active child. Although this is not a sugar issue per se (and thus not what the originator of the post is asking about), I see it as a blood sugar issue.
My grandmother, who died having severe dementia (possibly due to blood sugar issues? I have been thinking a lot about that), said that she experienced the same thing when I brought it up to her when I was about eight years old.


(Carl Keller) #11

Denial and ignorance are my bodily sins. I didn’t understand how potatoes, pasta and bread were really affecting me. Didn’t get why I could eat huge portions and be hungry 3-4 hours later… so I just kept eating lots of meals. I see all the males in my family have grown nice pot bellies and I thought maybe it was just genetic.

Keto opened my eyes to a lot of things. Makes mad, disappointed and happy all at once. Better late than never I suppose.


(Bob M) #12

I ate a very low fat (<10 % by calories) for years. It was only an extreme amount of exercise that prevented me from getting obese then. As soon as I got injured, I blew up like a balloon.

Like Karl, I could eat oats or brown rice and beans or pasta and be hungry almost immediately. Looking back, I had wild mood swings, shakiness, depression, all caused by huge amounts of carb intake (no sugar, though; didn’t eat anything with sugar in it until later).


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #13

For decades, I would consume Nabisco Fig Newtons by the box. I remember being so proud of myself when I was finally able to stop after eating just the first 15! Nowadays, I don’t even miss 'em, go figure! :bacon:


(Laurie) #14

As a child, I had a small appetite, and access to sugary foods was limited

As a teenager and for most of my adult life, I had a tremendous capacity for sugary foods–chocolate bars, donuts, candy–but also for other foods. And I didn’t like sugar all the time; for example, I preferred my porridge without sugar and pancakes without syrup. So I didn’t think about sugar issues much.

I had good teeth and wasn’t concerned about tooth decay.

When I was 30ish I noticed that when I ate sugar I “crashed” shortly after. But I didn’t think about it too much. My weight went up and down seemingly at random, so I didn’t see any relation between food and weight.

At 50 I tried the Atkins diet. Because I was no longer always hungry, I realized that sugar and carbs made me hungry.


(Bunny) #15

When I got real fat!


#16

When I was 6 or 7 or so my older brother and his friends would buy baseball cards by the dozens. They would sit on the curb and unwrap them and ooh and ahh over the Mickey Mantle and Ted Williams cards.

I would sit there and calmly chew every piece of bubble gum they couldn’t consume and noticed even then that I couldn’t get enough of the sweet chew.

Wish I could have ditched the gum and kept all those valuable cards.


(Lisa ) #17

I was born 10lb14. My mum almost certainly had gestational diabetes, but it was never tested for. And I was overweight ever since. Well, up til now :grin:


(Janelle) #18

Does bread count? I’ve never had a real sweet tooth but give me a loaf of bread - man. So I guess that WAS my sugar - or at least it was being converted into it. Growing up on Wonder Bread, I was introduced to better stuff as an exchange student in Germany. I thought I was being healthier. I really didn’t have a clue.