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(Denise) #41

I hear you Paul, always good to be reminded of what I’ve learned and conveniently forget sometimes :wink: I think I’m getting much quicker at just moving on :slight_smile:

(Joey) #42

Ah, you are correct! The 1 yr time horizon assessment on the LMHR cohort was slated to wrap up in Feb 2024 - haven’t seen results of that yet.

Sorry for my confusion … we’ve been talking about comparisons between the separate Miami study and the LMHR baseline data.

(Robin) #43

@Goldengirl52 Well, Denise… you may be equally dismayed that I stayed with that cardiologist! I confronted him and he was equally horrified and said he would never again prescribe something without telling the person what it was for exactly and how it worked.

I’ve had him for a couple years now and we get along fine. As Reagan said, Trust but verify. And as my dad said, Trust in Allah, but tie up your camel.

(Denise) #44

Not sure but I may have missed something previously from you Robin, but I get the gist of what you are saying. You have a pretty good cardio, and yes, they need to take the time to explain what they know of a drug. They get certain info from the Pharmceutical reps, and I know sometimes just are so swamped, or just human, and fail to give us all the skinny on things they want us to take :wink: hugs, Denise

(Bob M) #45

Dave Feldman’s study of LMHRs is supposed to go another year, to see what progression (or not) there is in plaque.

In the US, they want LDL under 100. I got my first LDL above 100 (130), and my cardiologist wants me on a statin (with a score of zero on CAC…fat chance I’m going on a statin).

@robintemplin 80/50? I’d pass out. I start getting dizzy when systolic is 100. I had to stop a 7 day fast at 5.5 days because I was getting dizzy when standing. That is some low blood pressure!

@Goldengirl52 I wouldn’t put an 81 year old woman with those numbers on a statin.

I tried to run her numbers through a calculator, but they only allow ages of 79 or less.

(Denise) #46

Well, I’m afraid if she keep up all the drugs, for whatever, she doesn’t eat right, or do any sort of exercise, she has a pain in her sciatica that’s what to gabapentin is for I guess. But what I wanted to say was I doubt she’s going to be upright much longer and she was one of most active seniors here as for as holding down a voluntary position as a Foster Grandparent, but just last few months dizzy spells legs give out on her, the list goes on.

When doctors can’t be honest and send you to a specialist at least, they hand you 'script. It’s not for me either Bob, no more pills, I’ll have to be passed out from getting hit in the head, or whatever before they’ll ever touch me.

(Bob M) #47

I know I’ve seen studies where they deprescribed drugs for seniors, and the ones that got fewer drugs lived longer. Maybe it was a Malcolm Kendrick blog post?

Anyway, here’s one study about this:

I think at 81, getting off drugs can help and there may be few if any detriments.

(Robin) #48

Denise, You may have been on a hiatus when I was going through my bouts of strokes and AFib. Good times.
Today blood thinners seem to be the biggest part of my recovery.
I am much better, but can tell when I need my dosage increased.

(Denise) #49

Ohmygosh, no, I did not know about your strokes :worried: I so glad you are on the mend!

I was gone quite awhile, I just go through stages where I can’t stay with one interest for very long. I think I am getting better as time goes on. Hoping for your complete recovery Robin, hugs, Denise