Leftover bones from bone broth


(JAMIE PADILLA) #1

First time poster - forgive me if this isn’t the right place to post this but I’m wondering if you guys think it would be safe to give your dogs the left over bones after cooking them for 24 hours. They are super soft and crumble under slight pressure. Nothing sharp about them.

Thanks


(Ron) #2

My dogs love them. The only thing I don’t let her have is the chicken feet because of the toenails. They are softer and she eats them lots quicker.


(MooBoom) #3

Eeeeek no no no- cooked bones (even what seems to be super crumbly and safe to us) are still mega risky!

Plus you cooked all the goodness out of them so what’s the point?


(Ron) #4

Not all the goodness is cooked out and many recook them a second and third time for more nutrients. And your going to have to explain to me why eating bones is bad for a carnivore?


(TJ Borden) #5

The bones themselves aren’t bad, but cooking them tempers them and the dogs can’t digest them the same way. Raw bones (even chicken bones) are fine, but you NEVER want to give dogs cooked bones


(MooBoom) #6

Cooking bones causes massive integrity changes, they easily splinter/fracture and can pierce the mouth/throat/oesophagus/intestinal tract.
I’m not trying to be a know it all or a wowser, it’s a real danger.


(Ron) #7

Well, I have to say I have been educated. I have been giving my dogs (and there have been many) bones for over 60 years and never had a problem. An old Alaskan friend of mine mushed dogs for years and the main staple was boiled salmon (bones and all).
That being said…it appears that the new school of thought is as you all suggest. I will consider this in the future. Another reason I :heart: this site!:grinning:
https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/nutrition/natural-foods/exercise-caution-when-giving-your-dog-a-bone/


(MooBoom) #8

A lot of vets are leary even of raw bones, only the bigger marrow ones though. Smaller raw edible bones like rabbit or chicken carcasses and lamb shacks etc are supposed to be fab.
I guess they see a lot of cases of bone eating gone wrong?


(Ron) #9

This is in the article linked. I wouldn’t really call it a lot. I do understand this is commercially.
" The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reports that between Nov. 1, 2010 and Sept. 12, 2017, it received accounts of 90 dogs who became sick after eating commercially-available smoked or baked bone treats. Fifteen of the dogs died"
https://www.petmd.com/dog/nutrition/evr_dg_raw_bones_or_cooked_bo


(Coinneach Domhnullaich) #10

I’d put your bones in the garden, if you have one.


(JAMIE PADILLA) #11

Thanks so much for the advice everyone. I’ll definitely pass on giving them to my dogs.


(JAMIE PADILLA) #12

Great idea!


(TJ Borden) #13

I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure that’s not how you grow animals.


#14

I give my bone broth bones to the dogs. We feed a raw diet (raw meaty bones). As far as nutrition the bone broth bones are more of a treat thing. It’s not their whole diet.

Generally cooked bones are not advised, but when my pressure cooked chicken bones crumble to pablum when I take them out of the pot, I don’t worry about giving it to my dogs.

Do what you feel comfortable with. I’m on the more laid back side.


#15

I see no problem, our dogs got cooked bones all there long lives, just fresh from the day while still soft


#16

I should add it was my breeder who introduced me to the pressure cooker - she would add home cooked to her kibble, which included bones, water and a bunch of other whatever stuff added in.

We do a raw diet so we don’t feed cooked bones and I wouldn’t feed them the chicken bones from normal chicken stock however bone broth seems to tenderize the bones to almost nothing so that’s the one exception I have no problems with.

I’ve also let them them chew on a cooked ham bones and what not as well, so I’m no purist. But i dont advertise that as its against general guidelines.

I think a lot has to do as well with dogs eating kibble all their life and then getting into the garbage or what not and then gorging out on a cooked chicken carcass. I noticed my dog tend to break open the bigger bones and eat the inside and leave little bits that they don’t find palatable for whatever reason.


(Marianne) #17

I give them to my cats But I mash them up with my fingers just in case there are any hard or sharp pieces left. They love them!


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #18

One Web site I just checked advises giving your dog healthy treats, such as carrot and apple slices, in place of bones and fat.


#19

The Diabetic Association for dogs?


(Alec) #20

Ah, it’s a complex path, but bones make great soil, great soil makes great plants, great plants can be cooked up and fed to something called humans, those humans can go to work and earn money, and they then use that money to buy a dog and dog food. When you mix those 2 together, you get a growing animal.

Complex, I know, and I think I need to add a science tag to this. It’s a bit like the Krebs cycle…