Kids eat CRAP


#102

Don’t panic. Please think she is 16 ! My son is nearly 15.
I also know this episodes with low fat and even vegan.
But we eat low carb since nearly 8 years know.
Keto nearly half a year.

I wait for the moment my son will refuse the things I cook,
only because he simply wants to do just the opposite than me.

Please have in mind:
even when she refuses it today. Maybe one day she feels like crap,
she will remember what you have told and shown her.
There are millions of childrens, never heard of this WOE
and never SEEN that it is really possible!
These ones will have it much more harder, to change their WOE.


#103

Don’t feel guilty. You tried to do what is best as you knew it at the time. Blame whoever told you a vegan diet was healthy. I personally do not like keto for a healthy growing child.

Some of my kids are overweight, some not and some have the potential to be. I have been on one moderate carb or another diet since 1995 (before I had children). I have known I do not do well on unresticted carbs but before keto I tend to cheat. Then I give up and eat Sad and gain. In that time I have gained a lot of weight, 70% of which I lost with keto and sticking to moderate carb. H used to ask me to buy healthier cereal (raisin bran! and honey nut cheerios! please) and I used to try to explain to him there was very little difference between that and Captain Crunch.

The point is that IR causes obesity not the other way around. We are taught that we become obese and develop disease. No, we eat carbs, our body cannot handle them, it protect us by putting the excess in our fat cells until the IR becomes too much and then we develop T2. People are addicted to carbs. They are the victims. That does not mean we should abdicate personal responsibility but it does mean we need a different way of thinking. It is not about willpower the way we have been taught. It is not about losing 30 lbs and then going back to the old ways.

My older daughter is overweight and had a pattern similar to mine. I was thin as a child and then a stray comment by my father at 13 set off a chain of bad diets. As a result I have never said anything to her. She is now 18 and in college and I still try very hard not to say anything. I know she has started becoming frustrated when she needs to buy because she is hard to fit (part of that is not weight but how picky she is). Recently she started reacting to pasta and other wheat. She is starting to limit it

My younger daughter who is 13 was diagnosed with Celiac in the last year. She is normal weight but the Celiac makes her eat more carbs than she might if her diet was less restricted. I worry that she will gain but I try to instill healthy eating habits. Every time we are in the car I have some diet podcast playing and it seems to be sinking in but slowly.

I am only about halfway to my weight loss goal and have been stalled for months. I hope when and I am starting to think if, I get to my goal that this will be an example but I have no idea


#104

Thank you!


#105

Thank you very much for your feedback. I really appreciate it.


(Doug) #106

How do we survive our youth? :smile:

40 years ago I was working on my first job, so I had a little money. A local grocery store had an outrageous sale - 8 packs of Pepsi (an entire gallon, or ~3.8 liters) for 89 cents. Yes, almost for free: US $0.89.

I literally “backed up the truck,” and bought 24. I was “rich.” 192 bottles…

On my dad’s farm, there was some steep, hilly ground where I was cutting trees one day. This is seriously tough work (just moving around on the slope is hard). Wielding a chain saw, fighting grape vines and weeds, pulling branches out of the tangle around a felled main trunk…

A steamy warm day in late spring or early summer - I got thirsty. Had a trusty 8 pack with me, and I drank 5 bottles fast, probably only took 4 or 5 minutes. Keyword ‘Guzzle.’ Now I figure that is a 280 gram hit of sugar. Ouch. Almost 10 ounces - over half a pound! :neutral_face:

I did feel a little dizzy after that. Surely, on an empty stomach, that was one hellacious insulin spike followed by a crash. I figured it was all that sugar that made me feel that way. Kept on working and eventually felt better.

I shudder to think… The human organism is a tough one. After that, it took me 40 years to become diabetic.

We can’t go back in time, of course - we can only fo forward (or not). I do wish that way back when, I’d known at least some of what I know now.


(Sophie) #107

The only reason there is so much sugar in sodas is to mask the taste of all the salt! “Thirst Quenching” my ass. Some states have laws against putting free peanuts/chips/popcorn crap on their bars because it makes people drink more, it’s called salting the bar…imagine that! :roll_eyes:


(Doug) #108

:smile: Used to eat a lot of pretzels and ‘Chex mix’ stuff that way.


(Sophie) #109

Yeah, when I was young and not yet metabolically deranged, I used to call that “dinner”. :smile: