Keytones higher than normal

(Ron D. Garrett) #1

Wanted to know if anyone else experienced a jump in blood keytones after dropping dairy.

I normally rock along at .5 - 2.0 (normally consistent at about 1.5) but I did an experiment the past week into week two now of dropping dairy because I’ve historically had an issue with dairy and since @carl and @richard inspired me to I did it :joy:.

Not concerned at all because I knew his could happen dropping dairy but just wanted to see if this happened to anyone else and/or Carl or Richard or anyone else could chime in with words or links for me to get info on it. I did a search but nothing came up. By the way. I’m a powerlifter also and lift heavy all of he time which I know blasts the glucose out and helps uptake any glucose in my blood back into the muscles (if I understand the science right) so my blood glucose is now sitting lower than normal also at an average of 70-80 (normal 90-100) whole my keytones have been steady at mid 3’s to 4 and I’m smh :joy: because I don’t chase keytones. Oh yeah keto for about 5 months

Ron “Big Black” Garrett

(Richard Morris) #2

Whey is specifically insulinogenic, and elevating insulin lowers production of ketones … so yeah I think that is a distinct possibility.

With you power lifting you’ll be putting a regular hole into your muscle store of glucose, which will draw down insulin as well. Your muscle cells as a fat adapted person are usually sparing glucose for tissue that can’t become fat adapted. But the exception is when you have depleted glycogen. As you use it to get glucose into muscle cells the level of insulin goes down. So it’s possible that you may see a greater effect from both the explosive glucose burning exercise and dropping whey (in dairy).

You can probably add back in milk fats (ie: butter, cream) and non whey dairy (ie: cheese) and see no change. And then add back whole milk and see ketones go down. It’s really just a marker for how much insulin you may be making.

(Marty Kendall) #3

Dropping dairy (which is energy dense) may just put you into an energy deficit so you’re burning your body fat, hence higher ketones!?!?

(Ron D. Garrett) #4

Thank you my friend! There were no worries. I just like to understand these things better since many have seen my journey and now I’m mentoring them. Everytime I turn around I’m getting someone new :joy: but as a former personal trainer, bodybuilder, and powerlifter I’m used to it but now I’m in a position to help others pro bono and I love it. Thanks again!

(Ron D. Garrett) #5

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