Key to keto - interesting Government advice

australia
#1

“Key to keto” was the best thing I got from this Australian Government Health Department page

The advice is upside down?

Highlights:

Although it has benefits as a medical treatment for certain groups of people, there is little evidence to recommend it as a long-term weight loss technique for healthy people.

Carbohydrates, or ‘carbs’, are an important nutrient.

People on a ketogenic diet usually eat only 20 to 50g of carbohydrates per day. As an example, 50g of carbohydrate is equivalent to 2 slices of bread and a banana.

(Scott) #2

It makes me wonder how long advice is going to use “No one knows the long term effect of a keto diet”. An effort to imply that carbs are the only way to get “important minerals and nutrients”. I do find it laughable the a Vegan or plant based diet is never given a cautionary note that you may not receive needed nutrients if you do not supplement your diet. My understanding of a plant based diet is you need to be very educated and diverse about what to eat and people often get it wrong at their own expense (many get it right too).

My point is not to bash plant based diets but to point out that I never see a spooky warning that nobody knows…and may not get essencial…with a plant based diet. However anything that favors that WOE alway peppers in these vague scary may do this and may do that when discussing a keto WOE.

#3

Hmmmm, :face_with_monocle: yes, I see what you mean Scott.

Same government web site.

A vegetarian diet based on vegetables, legumes, beans, wholegrains, fruits, nuts and seeds can help reduce the risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, obesity and some types of cancer.

Dietary fibre in a plant-based diet increases ‘good’ bacteria in the bowel.

A well-planned vegetarian diet that includes a variety of plant-based foods — including those from the 5 food groups — can meet nutritional needs. However, some nutrients may need special attention. A vegan diet requires extra care to ensure your body gets adequate nutrients — particularly in the case of children’s diets.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #4

I know. Two million years’ worth of evidence is simply not enough to be sure. . . :rofl:

(Scott) #5

I guess I will always be in the short term category for life then.:sunglasses:

(Failed) #6

And I wish they would stop emphasizing only the weight loss. As far as I’m concerned, the weight loss is a side effect of correcting all the metabolic disasters caused by SAD, not the main reason.

(Allie) #7

They’re not quite getting it…

(Scott) #8

Today I started the Amy Berger book Alzheimer’s Antidote. I will let you know if there is anything about weight loss in it. :grinning:

(Murphy Kismet) #9

YES!!! If only people would understand WHY they gained weight.

(Jane) #10

Me, too.

Vegetarian and vegan diets ALWAYS get touted for their health benefits, but never keto.

Reversing diabetes alone should be enough for the medical community to be shouting it from the rooftops. But there are other health benefits from reduced inflammation and improving the mental capabilities of dementia patients.

#11

“The best way to succeed on a plant based diet is to say you’re on a plant based diet, then go home and eat a lot of meat when no one is looking.”

I forget who said that. I think I might have seen it in a YouTube comment, but it stuck with me.