Warning - long. Hello team, Thanks for all the info to date. I am however hoping to specifically come up with a definitive way to interpret the readings for the Ketonix 2017 v2.2 device. I have read the entire thread in addition to the manual, and I was hoping to consolidate some of the facts we have as a means for me to be clearer on a few questions that seem to go around in circles. I am clear on the operating perimeters - namely measurement error caused through incorrect breathing technique, consuming large volumes of carbs, and consuming alcohol etc.
The ranges people are experiencing however are very wide and I was hoping to establish some context around these variations, and come up with a better understanding of what it actually means to have certain readings.
@flipflop Tom Clark references between 4 and 30 ppm as the nutritional Ketosis level. Responding to another post, Tom says once you hit green you are in nutritional ketosis. John Marty says he has got his as high as 7PPM, but usual operates his below 4 - having been in on a Ketogenic diet (consistently I assume) for six months or more. He is disheartened at 7.
Q.1 What does, say, between 4 and 10PPM mean then? In ketosis, but not getting a great deal of bang for your buck on energy delivery? If one was to remain in this range, can life still be good and you are doing things right? Or does this mean something is possibly a little off? Perhaps one has further to travel? If so over what broad time range?
Tom Clark thinks it’s fine, which is a little bit of a relief for me, who so far has been in the 3-6 PPM Range, 4 weeks in with ebbs and flows through out those ranges. However, then Brian reports that his average range is three to five times these values (36 - 52 PPM, hitting orange).
Q.2 If nutritional Ketosis is 4- 30, what does 50ppm and above signify? Greater levels of ketones, much higher energy levels, greater fat burning? @Brian, would you be so kind as to let me know how long you had maintained a keto diet before getting your first readings? Much appreciated!
@Andrew found success by addressing breathing, and hit close to 9PPM. This was great news, but this then circles back to question 1. Andrew, how long had you been doing keto before getting the that reading (measurement issues aside)?
@Brenda hits 50PPM, and then 80PPM. She did blood testing and found a somewhat linear relationship for her. I believe from listening to the pod cast, you are a fasting rock star - so this makes some sense to me. I still can’t seem to reconcile the meaning of each of these levels however, and broadly what context would surround me migrating up a level! Time, luck etc?
Q.3 Finally, what is red meant to represent? Rocket fuel in the blood? @Brenda, how long were you on the wagon to hit that number (or the equivalent in the blood strips for you since you seem to have some linear relationship between the two)? Was this after an extended fast? @Vampire is also hit the 50s, so us kids down the bottom are starting to worry again
And so it goes on. I am really racking my brain on this, and any help in framing this - so my simple mind can make sense of this - would be amazing. I got this thing in order to self experiment. I had done IF for about a month, then another month (of which there had been about three fasts ranging between 48 and 92 hours). I had a carb holiday before this thing arrived, then feasted on fat for a week before doing a 72 hour fast - only to barely moved the gauge. And so it continues. Truly sorry for such a long post. I just was hoping to address the issue I seem to be failing to get.
Awesome group, awesome Podcast! Thank you in advance. Truly. Jason