Keto vs Banting

[Dylan_Ashfield]

Hi I have been on Keto for 2 months and am hearing alot around Banting are they the same? Which one is better?
@besryouever01

[OgreZed]

A discussion from early this year:

Banting vs Keto

Banting vs Keto Both diets are basically the same. My South African Dr. said buy this book ‘The Real Meal Revolution’ (outstanding book btw) because you are going on the Banting diet, I’ll see you in 2 months! Well I enjoyed the book so much I read it twice and also bought The Real Meal 2.0, another good book. My wife and I both jumped into Banting hard, man we were so sick from the keto flu but stuck it out with no cheat days at all. All we had to go by was the Real Meal books and the green li…

[David_Stilley]

Hi Dylan and welcome to the forum. If you haven’t read it yet William Banting’s
“A Letter on Corpulence.” is fascinating and maybe the birth of the modern low carb diet, although I don’t think it was quite ketogenic because there was some toasted bread and a fair amount of alcohol involved when it was written and published in 1869. It was a best seller.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/j.1550-8528.1993.tb00605.x

[Momof5]

Welcome to the forum, Dylan.

[Dylan_Ashfield]

Thank you

[Dylan_Ashfield]

Thanks i did try Banting a while back and am very fimilar with the book just maybe was not ready to it then. I have been doing Keto with intermittent fasting and it just seems so much easier to do.

[PaulL]

The South African Banting diet is named in honour of Willam Banting, and is promoted by Prof. Tim Noakes and the Noakes Foundation.

Most people make a distinction between “low-carbohydrate,” which tends to be a bit higher in carbohydrate intake, and “keto,” where the level of carbohydrate is kept below a certain limit. The limit we recommend on these forums is 20 g/day.

So the simple answer to your question is that the Banting diet is keto, if you keep your carb intake under 20 g/day. Otherwise, it’s low-carb.

The more nuanced answer is that some people’s carbohydrate tolerance is a little higher than others’, and that any diet that lowers your carbohydrate intake enough for your body to produce ketones is actually a ketogenic diet, regardless of the precise amount of carbohydrate you are eating.

We recommend staying below 20 g/day, simply because it’s a low enough intake to guarantee ketosis to practically everyone. Once you have become keto-adapted (takes generally around 6-8 weeks), then you can experiment to see if you can handle a bit more carbohydrate. But a lot of people find, at that point, that they are quite happy without any more carbohydrate.

[Jamboribs]

one is better?

Welcome Dylan!
I’m a Banter for life, still not sure if anyone else on the forum is? The diets are basically the same LCHF but the Banting diet has simplified it into; eat from the green list, dip into the orange list when fat adapted and stay away from the red list. I am presently in what they call ‘preservation mode’. I have been sitting at 205 pounds for the last 6 months but I am weightlifting 4-5 days a week adding dense muscle. I think I have settled at my fighting weight and carry it well at 6’ 3". I still eat under 20 carbs a day and fat to satiety and an 18 hour fast between meals with no problems. I am off all my meds, reversed HBP with too many non scale victories to mention. Everyday I can’t believe that I can eat all this delicious high fat food and have more energy than when I was 50 years old (I’m 60 now). If you have a chance, Google the South African Banting Facebook and take a look at the before and after transformations, unreal motivator. They had 1.5 million members before Facebook shut them down for some reason?