Keto must be a lot harder for *normal* people

(hottie turned hag) #21

:imp: Me. Me so me. All me. I don’t feel superior though, I judge and loathe myself as harshly.

Can’t do it. But I like you guys who can. :purple_heart:

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #22

I think I needed to be super strict when I first started. I was dealing with a body that didn’t know what was good for it and if it had it’s way we’d eat Little Debbie’s for every meal. Now that I’m 9 months in I can actually listen to and hear what’s happening inside. If I eat something with sugar, I get heart burn. If I have gluten, I get gas and cramps and stupidly crave more. It’s easier to moderate doses of foods that do a disservice to my body because I’m not living in a constant state of malaise anymore.

So while I’m thankful for the time I spent being stringent in my approach, I am also thankful I’m becoming someone who is learning about and able to respond thoughtfully to how different food reacts and form conclusions about why they aren’t good for me on a personal level.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #23

I think this is part of the reason why I liked the ladder approach to Atkins when I first started out. I learned just how much each carb I added back in effected me. Some were great, I’m talking to you mac nuts, others like you cashews, were not.

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #24

Hmmmm, well Goohsmom, for myself it might be different. Keep in mind that from 2011-2015 I also kept a very strict diet, albeit a different a slightly different one than the Keto diet I do now. So for 5 years, I ate ZERO bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, candy, sugary drinks… And I mean ZERO ! Like not one slip up, or cheat for 5 years !
And I honestly feel that if it were not for my whole life being derailed with the back injury, I’d be 10 years in, still with ZERO slips or cheats.
You have to understand that the way I ate, and worked out was completely automatic. I didn’t have to use any will power. I did it without thinking.
And I could see Keto becoming the same way for me in a year or two…

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #25

Honestly, I don’t know how my body would react if I ate some kind of carb filled garbage… Because I have not done that for going on 6 weeks.

It really makes me no difference though. I’d rather just tell myself it would be a horrible, feel bad experience. Kind of self brainwashing I guess, but if it keeps me on the right track, it’s all good :slightly_smiling_face:

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #26

But just so you know, I think I’m the freaking oddball ! Not others.
I know the vast majority of people have a variable control dial. But for whatever reason, I was born with only an on/off switch.

If anything, I feel sorry for people trying to achieve certain things, always having to use self control. If that were me, everything big that I’ve ever accomplished would have been a complete failure.

Only having that on/off switch just makes everything so clear cut :slightly_smiling_face:

(PSackmann) #27

You do you Chris, I’ll do me. I do know that being laid-up for several months did not derail me this year, neither do stressful situations. Allowing myself to be 75% some weeks, knowing I’ll be 100% others, is my way of loving myself; again, me doing me. I feel blessed I no longer have an all or nothing attitude, when I did I was very harsh with myself, which led to my losing control and gaining everything back plus more. I can’t explain it any better than that Chris, it’s an acceptance that I haven’t had before, including an acceptance of my current size as long as I’m gaining health-wise.

(Marianne) #28

Hee, hee - if you really want to know! :blush:

It was 74/26% huge hamburgers, cooked and sliced in half lengthwise and then sauteed cut sides in bacon grease. We had that with some cole slaw (mayo, vinegar and spices), and a little broccoli in butter. It was gastronomic nirvana!!!

(Marianne) #29

:rofl:

Love it!

(Marianne) #30

I don’t cheat because I am petrified of reigniting my food addictions. Was at a party the other night and I got into the mixed nuts. Had more than I wanted but didn’t binge - but it was very difficult to stop. Nuts are so delicious but there is nothing to them. I could eat a can very easily. I knew I shouldn’t have started with those, but it served as a scary reminder. I am too afraid of eating pasta, pizza or dessert because I can’t predict how long I might be off and when I might get back on.

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #31

My GF and I are getting ready to make Keto pizza this week :slight_smile: Its mostly just the crust that you have to concerned about, and a great Keto crust should be easy to make :slight_smile:
A little concerned about the tomato sauce… but considering ranch sauce instead. And BTW, ALL pizza toppings go great with ranch… not just chicken. I worked in a pizza restaurant for years. So I’m kind of an authority :slight_smile: lol

(Marianne) #32

I saw the pic you posted of your last keto pizza and it looked delicious! I am so afraid to try it, though, because I can see myself bingeing on it or ordering a regular pizza. Pizza used to be my all-time favorite food.

(Wendy) #33

I’m not you, but the fathead pizza I made was So filling. I had two pieces and that was all I could have eaten. It’s just so much more filling than flour based pizza.

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #34

That wasn’t my Keto pizza… We haven’t made one yet…

But no worries at all about ordering a regular high carb one later…

I swear, you could put any kind of carb heavy food right in front of me, and I bet you my life, I wouldn’t have a bite of it… Or even care to.

Back when I ate Paleo (for 5 years) I’d walk down to isle with nothing but cakes and pastries on one side, because I was buying peanut butter and nuts, on the other side… And I look at that other stuff like it was a stack of bricks.
Once I flip this switch in my head, it’s all on !
Never a question… Never a temptation :wink:

(Kirk Wolak) #35

I am lucky my brother supported me. I visited last summer when I had just started fasting, and I explained (I will be there 9 days, I will eat only 4 meals, and 2 of them is NOT with you guys). I will therefore have 2 meals with you, but I will sit down for Dinner with you and PRACTICE having a coffee or water, and work on the MUSCLE that lets me fast while others eat.

It went really well. I stuck to my plan. I learned ONE thing. I cannot prepare food while fasting. It’s just too difficult. I can watch others eat. But cooking usually requires tasting. And that’s pure danger on a fast. So I apologized I could not help prepare the meals I was not eating at… They were good with it, and supported me… THOUGHT I was crazy. 1 yr later, my brother is 2MAD. Lol

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #36

I don’t feel deprived, either, but those sugar/carb cravings occasionally kick my butt. You are obviously not an addict, Raj! :+1:

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #37

. . . who obviously hadn’t read Banting’s Letter.

(April Harkness) #38

Same. I go all in or not at all. I mean…i am keto plus omad. For me to do that successfully? I must be all in. Also i have an addictive personality. This has wrecked havoc in the past…but having my addiction directed at nutrition and my training regimen has been beneficial. I mean…here is a vid. Vid on left- me trying this thing called “moderation” vid on right? My addictive personality caused me to stick with keto and become hardcore about it. See the results! -https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=geXJbDMEdYE

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #39

Wow ! Your looking great ! So yes, I feel the same way. I know it might be “better for me” to practice some moderation in some parts of my life. But then again, as I say, all of my biggest accomplishments in life, were by throwing everything else out the window, and going crazy over one thing.
People have often been like, Wow ! That’s amazing ! How do you have such crazy sharp focus ? I’m like, it’s easy. Once I get sucked in to something, the only hard thing is to focus on anything else.

(Susan) #40

@April_Harkness

You look amazing, April, that is awesome =).