Keto must be a lot harder for *normal* people

(Susan) #6

I am totally the type that gets addicted too! That is why I am sooooooo glad I found this forum, so I can talk to all you amazing people about it all the time, because I am Keto obsessed and my family (I love them all dearly) but they are not really into my talking about Keto or “my diet” at all… in fact, they hate me talking about it.

I love this place, because we get to talk about Keto, and all aspects of it, and everyone here is so amazing and fun and you are all realllllly helping me stay on track and making me really motivated and goal oriented. You are really an awesome bunch, so thanks to all of you!

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #7

I used to be that normal. My goal is to never be “normal” again. It used to result in me being a total yoyoer.

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #8

Well, I’m sure their are a lot of worse things out there to be addicted to, than health and fitness :slight_smile:

I agree about this forum being really helpful ! Big thank you from me too :slight_smile:

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #9

I hope you can achieve this :slight_smile: I can see somebody walking into a psychiatrist’s office, and being like, “Well doc, I was hoping you could help me to be obsessive, compulsive” :slight_smile: lol

(Karim Wassef) #10

Hmmm… I resemble that remark, but allow me to reframe :slight_smile:

It’s just focus supported by a passionate drive to do things right. Some people naturally get into that hyper focus state and are passionate about what they want. It’s not a psychological handicap… it’s more like a superpower.

But with great power comes great responsibility.

It takes self control, awareness and discipline to know where the line between hyper focus and irresponsibility / insensitivity lies. So focus on the focus … focus squared.

(hottie turned hag) #11


Hey @FishChris maybe merge these two threads of yours, no? :slightly_smiling_face:

(Edith) #12

I don’t think getting excited and zealous about an endeavor is the same thing as OCD. It’s more of a hyper focus on something new and exciting so much so you can’t stop thinking about it and wanting to be immersed in it.

(PSackmann) #13

As a “normal” person, I can tell you that being able to have a bit of something non-Keto and go right back to Keto is hard, but for the long-term sustainability it’s worth it. I’ve worked hard on my mindset to break the “all or nothing” attitude and accept “mostly”. It came along with breaking the hold the scale has over me, although that darned thing still mocks me. By focusing on NSV’s though, I’ve seen my attitude change significantly.

For me, there’s no win or lose, no final mastery, just a daily acknowledgement of how I need to eat the majority of the time for my health, for the rest of my life. Because I’ve chosen to eat this way for health primarily, instead of a goal weight to be achieved by a certain date, there’s an appreciation of the small steps of progress. I can enjoy my journey, knowing it will constantly change and never end. Each day brings something small to celebrate, which keeps me going and keeps me from crashing as well.

(Raj Seth) #14

This ^^ +1
I keep saying this WOE is soo sooo easy. Just feed your body the correct fuel, and the lizard-brain keeps us sated and happy. People say - “wow - it must be hard - you have such great will power” - and I say “Naaah - its super super easy. I’m never hungry, and I don’t have to fight any cravings, and I feel 20 years younger. Done & DONE”

I don’t have a hunky ‘bod’ like you yet (or maybe ever), but I will lose surplus body fat over time - without effort. Just KCKO

(Marianne) #15

Met my siblings and spouses for breakfast this morning, as we always do on Sunday mornings. They are all overweight. I have learned not to talk about keto because they don’t want to hear it, but we had the most delicious meal last night and it was so phenomenal that I was excited to share it with them. It was a food high. They were aghast. You would think my husband and I were deliberately eating ourselves into an early grave. We talked about it on the drive home and I said, “never again.” I’m with you - I so appreciate this forum because we all speak the same language, celebrate our victories together and encourage each other.

(Full Metal KETO AF) #16

Yes, I see this as resolve not obsession. It’s making a decision about what you want as a goal and doing what’s necessary to achieve it. It have had a few off plan meals for various social reasons in the last ten months. But I have never had it become a fall off the wagon experience because we ain’t having that. I usually enjoy the experience of the meal but feel the consequences afterwards so it reminds me again that there’s a cost to eating carbage and you pay a tax in the hours that follow with a decrease in how good you feel. That keeps me moving towards my goal of being healthy and eating for nutrition, not just hedonistic pleasure. :cowboy_hat_face:

(Andi loves space, bacon and fasting. ) #17

There’s been so much misinformation for so many years, if people aren’t actively doing their research, they won’t have access to the information that supports the keto WOE. BTW, what was that amazing dinner - share it with us!!!

(Karim Wassef) #18

I do think that it’s important not to judge those without “superpowers”. It’s easy to fault those who fall off as being weak or undisciplined but the world is an amazing tapestry of unique and wonderful people who differ in so many ways.

If you’re blessed with focus, that’s great. Try to see how you can help others. You can either be a superhero helping those who need it, or a supervillain who judges and decides that you’re just better than the “normals”… ok ok a little dramatic, but my point is to look with kindness and generosity towards those who are different. :smile:

(Diane) #19

I’m very glad to see that hedonism still has its place, if not it’s (possibly) former focus! I can relate!!

:blush:

(hottie turned hag) #20

This made me think of a line in a 19th century novel (I’m a lit nerd and rare/antique/classic book collector :books:) : “He’s digging his grave with his teeth”
It referred to a “corpulent” fellow.

(hottie turned hag) #21

:imp: Me. Me so me. All me. I don’t feel superior though, I judge and loathe myself as harshly.

Can’t do it. But I like you guys who can. :purple_heart:

(squirrel-kissing paper tamer) #22

I think I needed to be super strict when I first started. I was dealing with a body that didn’t know what was good for it and if it had it’s way we’d eat Little Debbie’s for every meal. Now that I’m 9 months in I can actually listen to and hear what’s happening inside. If I eat something with sugar, I get heart burn. If I have gluten, I get gas and cramps and stupidly crave more. It’s easier to moderate doses of foods that do a disservice to my body because I’m not living in a constant state of malaise anymore.

So while I’m thankful for the time I spent being stringent in my approach, I am also thankful I’m becoming someone who is learning about and able to respond thoughtfully to how different food reacts and form conclusions about why they aren’t good for me on a personal level.

(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #23

I think this is part of the reason why I liked the ladder approach to Atkins when I first started out. I learned just how much each carb I added back in effected me. Some were great, I’m talking to you mac nuts, others like you cashews, were not.

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #24

Hmmmm, well Goohsmom, for myself it might be different. Keep in mind that from 2011-2015 I also kept a very strict diet, albeit a different a slightly different one than the Keto diet I do now. So for 5 years, I ate ZERO bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, candy, sugary drinks… And I mean ZERO ! Like not one slip up, or cheat for 5 years !
And I honestly feel that if it were not for my whole life being derailed with the back injury, I’d be 10 years in, still with ZERO slips or cheats.
You have to understand that the way I ate, and worked out was completely automatic. I didn’t have to use any will power. I did it without thinking.
And I could see Keto becoming the same way for me in a year or two…

(Dirty Lazy Keto'er, Sucralose freak ;)) #25

Honestly, I don’t know how my body would react if I ate some kind of carb filled garbage… Because I have not done that for going on 6 weeks.

It really makes me no difference though. I’d rather just tell myself it would be a horrible, feel bad experience. Kind of self brainwashing I guess, but if it keeps me on the right track, it’s all good :slightly_smiling_face: