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(Allie) #22

Again you’re making assumptions that are absolutely incorrect. I have never fallen into the trap of believing I needed special keto supplements, I’ve never needed pills or powders to make it work (either in reality or just in my head), so you’re wrong, I did not go down “that rabbit hole” because I’ve always been able to see through the marketing.

Seems to me that you did just that and have now suddenly recognised what us long term ketoers already know and realised how mistaken you were to be misled by the marketing.


#23

Which is exactly why people supplement!


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #24

There is a magnesium atom at the centre of every chlorophyll molecule, so the greener the vegetable, the more magnesium. Also, bone broth that’s been well-simmered contains a lot of magnesium.


(Edith) #25

Hi @kanetuck, I agree that we shouldn’t need supplements in a perfect world. Unfortunately, the world is not perfect, the lives we live are not perfect, our genetics are not perfect, and the upbringing and nutrients we received while we were growing were not perfect. All of these things contribute to what we may need to add to our diets on an individual basis.

I stopped eating dairy products quite some time ago because I realized it was causing skin and joint issues. Since all the “experts” talk about how important dairy is for healthy bones, I supplemented with something called Citrical (calcium citrate and vitamin D) for years. I was still having back problems and recently stopped the calcium supplements, although I did add in some vitamin K2. Within a few days, my back was greatly improved. Why? Well, I wonder if I had excess Ca settling in my joints from the supplements and the combination of stopping the excess Ca and the vitamin K helped pull the calcium into my bones? :woman_shrugging: So, here was an example where it turns out the supplement may have been doing harm. I mean, it was Ca. We all need calcium, right? I have to admit, I may not have ever thought of the Ca causing harm, except for a thread on this forum about just that.

Magnesium on the other hand, seems to be something I have to take in largish quantities. I have even tried lowering the dosage and quitting it several times, but my symptoms of magnesium deficiency return fairly quickly. Why do I need large doses of Mg? I don’t know. Genetics? Diet as a growing child?

I do take vitamin D3 and K2 along with magnesium. I work in an office with no windows :cry: for forty hours a week, so…

Finally, electrolytes. They have been my bane on low carb. Not enough salt causes me to get aches and cramps. I have also tried stopping extra salt supplementation, but to no avail.

So, I guess my story boils down to: I would love not having to add supplements to my diet. I’ve tried not adding supplements to my diet, but my lifestyle, genetics, and who knows what else, seems to say otherwise.

I will add that it is easy to fall into the trap of trying supplements. Many of us want to find that magic pill that will solve health problems be it medication, vitamins, or some kind of herbal supplement.

I think in this day and age, with plants and animals genetically modified or bred to grow as quickly and big as possible, the amount of nutrients per calorie of food has gone way down. Someone my age and size, 56 year old female, 63 inches tall, for example, would probably have to eat way more than her body needs calorically to get everything it needs nutritionally.


#26

you are you and your blanket statement as I read thru the thread is super annoying cause ALL IS based on you.

wow there are billions out there ‘doing Keto Plan with supps as they require’ to suit them yet you seem ‘you got it all wrapped up for the billions just in nice package and bow’ as it suits you?

sorry your posts thru the thread are so off. you will not be me, I won’t be you and your supps won’t ever be what I require yet you seem SO SET in follow xyz and we all become healthy to your level?

sorry dude but you are so not anyone else. Your blanket statements will just ruin others as they require in their lives.

ASK US ALL how we know this :roll_eyes:

MCT OIL is devastingly bad to another yet you thrive on it as an individaul where another will persih on it.

I GET the hype and newbie thing going down but to say for all is just OH so wrong…but if we do Keto Plan to suit each human as we navigate this life, yes we can heal and cure.

way too newbie bold on knowin’ which is fab to fit all kinda and not saying that in a bad way ever but to not allow for humans to be their own selves and not fit ‘into diet modes’ whe health issues medically so come into play is just so off…we aint you…get it :slight_smile: but we can follow our path to get there wtih learning us thru eating changes.

Slow your roll new dude.

jsut saw the user is suspended but the user has been ‘yrs into Keto?’ and jsut a big hmmm cause to me never knew this person on the site yet time on the site means? oh well…just a whatever? I have no idea :roll_eyes:


(Allie) #27

They got themselves banned.


(Shannon) #28

My impression of kanetuck:


(Edith) #29

What’d I miss?


(Laurie) #30

The part where he said she needed to get laid.


(Allie) #31

Admin decision, I found out after the event.


(Edith) #32

Oh…:grimacing:, definitely missed that.


(Allie) #33

He was just a silly child having a tantrum.


(Michael) #34

Magnesium is a challenge for me as a carnivore, but snails have 17% per ounce. I found 5 ounces of snails to be too much for me, but I have started eating 2 ounces as my other foods take me closer to RDA. Dark chocolate has 16% per ounce as well, sometimes I cheat