Keto for quite a few years now but we must be missing something

(Barbara M) #41

@Bellyman
A recent Dr. Ken Berry discussion about iodine if you are interested in his opinion.

Hopefully it’s more information for you.

(Edith) #42

@Bellyman, I just wanted to check in and see how your wife is doing. Has she started any kind of resistance training program?

(Brian) #43

Hi Edith, thanks for checking in.

No, my wife hasn’t started anything resistance wise, at least not yet.

She kinda got hit with another thing, Alpha Gal. She’s had a needle in her ear (acupuncture) for almost 3 weeks now and is hoping it will help. Her symptoms aren’t that severe, basically a bit of intestinal distress unless she gets way too much of something, then it’ll show up as swelling usually in part of the face.

So with that, the diet is all messed up. She’s not getting much good protein (our sources of fish/chicken/turkey aren’t great, quality sucks) so for the most part, I’ve not been eating that well either. PLUS, one of her big sources of calcium, dairy, has been off the table, too.

We’ve had our challenges. Not really sure where it all goes from here. We’re gonna see if we can get good quality meats back into her diet, I know I will appreciate that, too. (Hate eating separate meals from each other, we do that sometimes, but would rather eat the same things together.)

Wish I had some really great stuff to tell ya, I don’t. Have struggled with numerous things way out of the realm of diet, even considering a move to another part of the country.

Again, thank you for thinking of me/her/us. That’s sweet.

(Edith) #44

Thanks for the update. I’m sorry to hear things aren’t going that well. As a person who cannot tolerate dairy, one of the things I do is make my own calcium supplement using ground up egg shells. 1g of the powder is approximately 380mg of calcium in the form of calcium carbonate. I tend to crunch it down with some water, but it can be added to smoothies. Coconut or macadamia nut milks are good substitutes for cow’s milk and she could try supplementing with non dairy protein powders including egg protein. I hope you get things figured out and back on path. :two_hearts:

(Brian) #45

Thank you, Edith! Sincerely!

Not sure where life is going at the moment. We’ll be OK. Just can’t see very far down the road.

Appreciate the thoughts and the kindness.

(B Creighton) #46

I can get goat yogurt from Trader Joe’s at only 10-20% more than A2 yogurt at Costco. Pray for one to come near you!!! Yeah, but otherwise it is usually substantially more at health food stores. Although certain grocery chains do sometimes carry it.

(holistciRN) #47

I doubt any of this is due to your diet. High WBC usually means some sort of infection or inflammation. Low bone density is prevalent in ALL women and a lot of men after age 50. I hope you get some answers and it’s not CLL. Bone density builders don’t always work and several of their side effects are necrosis and breaking of bone, so not sure the meds are the best route, I opted to not take them myself with worse numbers than your wife’s. I have been osteoporotic for almost 20 years with no issues.

(Brian) #48

Thank you for the reply!

We’re slowly trying to get onto a better plan. Trying to get nutrients she can handle. She seems to be quite sensitive to dairy at the moment, lesser but still sensitive to pork and somewhat to beef. Had some treatments for Alpha Gal and she thinks they might have helped a little, not sure. Lots of things up in the air.

Actually, she does have CLL, confirmed by the oncologist. But you’re probably right, not really any connection to the osteoporosis. It tends to be several years between tests, though, so it’ll be a while before we have a comparison to work with, something to see if it’s better or worse. The oncologist only wanted us to come see him again if there were something particularly unexpected in the blood work, otherwise, it was, “Have a nice life.”

(holistciRN) #49

It’s sad and crazy how little some doctors seem to care these days! I know they too are stressed but it doesn’t take much to show compassion. You are a good husband looking into everything possible to help your wife. I hope she does well and I’m sure you will both do the right things, whatever they are. We just found out that my 41 year old daughter has a form of PML, a form of blood cancer. It’s really scary. Hang in there and thanks for sharing!

(Brian) #50

So sorry to hear about your daughter. So many crazy health issues are happening to so many people, and younger people, too.

Thank you for the good thoughts and wishes. I wish you and your daughter the best of outcomes with your situations, too. Sometimes just sharing with people who care means a whole lot. Thank you!

(BuckRimfire) #51

I’m VERY unsure of this, but I had the idea that the protein “limitation” paradigm you quote was the result of studies that look at stimulation of protein synthesis (in muscle?) by protein intake. if plateau in the amount of de novo protein synthesis occurs, where does the excess protein go? I suppose it could just be deaminated and turned into glucose or lipid (and urea), but I don’t remember if they measured that in those experiments.

Since this protein synthesis stimulation has been found to require more protein intake to reach a maximal value in those of us who are old (seems to be most of us here!) and yet most of the olds eat LESS protein than younger people, I never consider my overconsumption of protein to be a problem. I’m trying to set a good example for my peers…