Keto and Multiple Sclerosis

newbies

(Kellie) #1

Today is day 2 - I’m a bit confused on counting carbs, fat, etc but think I have the basic understanding. I’ve put on 45lbs this past year after a long period of Prednisone and a broken ankle. Any insight to Keto and pros/cons when dealing with Multiple Sclerosis or autoimmune diseases? I’ve already lost 2lbs just by increasing water consumption and trying to follow Keto food rules. Meals past 2 days have been coffee with coconut oil, 2 eggs with 1/2 avocado, Fage plain yogurt with a few blackberries and walnuts, 1/4 chicken breast w/pesto and broccoli, steak with romaine lettuce, 1/2 avocado and garlic/olive oil dressing. Not hungry but also not sure I am getting enough calories?


#2

So long as you’re getting enough protein, electrolytes, and micronutrients, I wouldn’t worry about the calories.

With regard to MS, you might look into fasting…


(Ken) #3

A fat based nutritional pattern has been shown to mitigate/alleviate effects of MS. This was shown nearly two decades ago, but I don’t have the research handy. Causation has been explained in a somewhat complex way, and also provides reasoning for several other conditions, such as autism, tourette’s, and other neurological disorders. Disorders related to deterioration of the myelin sheath that surrounds nerve endings. The concept is that the NAD, being fundamentally immunologically supressive, exposes the subject to the effects of foods that are nutritionally discordant to the individual, in an evolutionary/genetic sense. So, as your immune system improves, symptoms should reduce and possibly alleviate completely. In addition, you should consider eliminating potentially discordant foods, the main ones being grains, beans, and dairy. There are others, including nightshades, etc. A good overview of discordancy is provided by Cordain’s “Cereal Grains: Humanity’s Double-Edged Sword”, which I highly recommend.


(Roy D) #4

You may want to try using an App on your smart phone to help count carbs (and other macros) such as MyFitnessPal. (Try loading the free version both on your smartphone and your computer. The computer version has some additional functions that may be helpful.) Enter the foods you eat, and under the “More/Nutrition” choices, the App totals up your daily macros (including carbs).

I’ve also seen mention of other Apps that count macros, but don’t have any experience with these other Apps. You may search this Ketogenic Forums website to find others.

Good luck and welcome to the Keto lifestyle! :slight_smile:


(bulkbiker) #5

You might find this site interesting
https://terrywahls.com


(Ken) #6

She’s one of the first ones. I read her first book, she’s at my Alma Mater. I haven’t followed up on her lately, initially she didn’t have a good handle on the Paleo concept (real paleo, not the faux paleo currently pushed) or discordancy and was fairly anti-fat. I hope she’s since changed.


#7

Hi Kellie,
I have autoimmune diseases but not MS. Also chronic disease.
I use Cronometer to simplify my daily totals of macronutrients (macros - fat/protein/carbohydrates) and micronutrients (micros - vitamins, minerals, specific fats/proteins/carbs) as well as calories in & out, and activity. Cronometer is easy to use on my laptop or phone and it syncs with my Fitbit. I am able to see my results and make adjustments.
Welcome!


#8

As someone who is doing this for the cognitive benefits, I adopted Paleo’s focus on the quality of foods. I believe the reports on commercial and pasteurized dairy, so I minimize the use of it. Now if I had my own cow… I avoid processed or chemicalized foods (ie. bacon, lunch meats). I prefer local meat, for me that means buying directly from the fishing boat. I get most of my fat from real food, not oils. Eating avocados, incorporating olives into many dishes, always having nuts and seeds on hand, and making nut butters (my favorite is pecan).

There are a couple of folks in my household who do not need to lose weight. Getting sufficient calories before becoming full can be challenging. Since drinking calories is easier than eating them, making high fat smoothies in your desired macro ratio is simple and effective.


(Todd Allen) #9

I also found Dr. Terry Wahls book “The Wahls Protocol” quite helpful. I have SBMA, not MS but it is one of many neurological/motor disorders with mitochondrial dysfunction playing a major role. She promotes a paleo derived keto diet focused on whole natural foods, eliminating processed foods and very high in vegetables, especially leafy greens. She also advocates eliminating or restricting foods which can trigger auto-immune response such as dairy and eggs though not having MS this doesn’t seem to be an issue for me.

Here’s a link to her book through library genesis, though if you look at it and find it helpful I encourage you to buy the book which is readily available through book sellers such as Amazon.
https://libgen.pw/item/detail/id/1433780