I’m planning on eventually building my own wood power rack for home use… with massive mirror walls… to ensure proper form. I’m DIY-friendly (aka cheap)
Karim's muscle gain carnivore adventure
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#89
macaroons
I know coconuts aren’t carnivore (maybe they should be)… but the egg whites are. LOL
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#90
So other than adding it to hamburgers, there are apparently liver pills… and liver jerky?
Pate and Liverwurst is pretty tasty in my opinion… but I like liver, so I’m probably not a good judge for others…
and then again, eating and taste is really all about habits…
and I know some people don’t like Dr Berg, but I like his vids:
and then classic cooking recipes: butter, bacon, onion and liver … basically bacon and butter make everything better
and apparently… milk helps?
I’d try it with HWC personally…
Robinette71
(Tamela Robinette)
#91
I’m late to the party, how do you consume the gelatin? I need more collagen in my life to heal an injured tendon.
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#93
Anyone want to bet on how much my weight change will be between this morning fasted vegan at 172.2 and tomorrow’s morning fed carnivore weigh in?
Tonight is the first carni feast and tomorrow is the second at a family event.
I’m betting 7lbs days for sat-sun and another 5lbs sun-mon…
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Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#96
Tonight will be start of the carnivore experiment (3.5hrs fasting to go) with traditional Egyptian food so the steak will have to wait till tomorrow…
Wife is cooking up a feast and I like all of it but strangely enough, there are three things I’m really looking forward to:
Bone marrow soup - simmering all day full of bones
Egg yolks in butter - just the yolk… the whites are not that tempting
Bacon - nuff said
The rest is good but those three feel more like a need than a want after fasting and vegan for 55 days. I think the lack of collagen and cholesterol is causing this reaction. There are just no vegan substitutes and after fasting, my body wants to rebuild with gusto and those are key missing ingredientsz
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#98
so you think I’ll gain 4lbs on day 1 and 6lbs on day 2? You sure? I usually gain the most on day 1, but family feasts are a different dynamic… it’s a risky bet, but we’ll see!
Karim 7 + 5
Mario 5 + 3
Dena 4 + 6
x-Dena-x
(Little Miss Scare-All)
#99
My thought process was I figured that you may eat a little less and a little more cleanly on the 1st day, and possibly more food and less cleanly on the family function day.
If it was both days eating at home, I’d say more on day 1 than on day 2.
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#100
you bet on my self restraint at home … we’ll see 
I promise that I will not consider any of these bets in my actual eating… I will dutifully do what I would have done regardless. scout’s honor!
Don_Q
(Windmill Tilter)
#101
This is my #1 steak hack! Have you tried salting it while it’s dry aging? It does amazing things!
Don_Q
(Windmill Tilter)
#102
I can’t wait to see how the high protein affects your glucose and GKI. There is so much debate on this point with good evidence on both sides. Nobody has ever tracked GKI 6-8 times a day while doing carnivore OMAD though. Your n=1 will be pioneering and fascinating. We should get one of the mods to make you and @primal.peanut a some kind of keto science pioneer badge. Peanut for fasting and RMR tracking and you for GKI and fasting.
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#103
As with most things, I think it depends…
GNG is demand driven - that is true when in a fasted state. The body will determine the appropriate level of glucose it needs based on exertion, glycogen levels, and availability of raw material (fatty acid / glycerol backbone vs. autophagic amino acid) as well as stimulus from hormones.
But in my experience, even with vegan proteins, excess amino acids have to go somewhere… and all muscle gain is demand driven too… so if there is no demand = more excess amino acids that need to be managed. Nitrogen compounds are important but also deadly and that’s why there’s a cycle to remove them and export them in urine… so, the body breaks down the amino acids, deaminates them to remove the Nitrogen and gets rid of the excess… the remainder just happens to be the building blocks of glucose… bam GNG. But this kind of GNG has a double whammy - first, protein by itself has an insulin response… and then second, the resulting glucose has a multiplying insulin response (more than just protein + just glucose).
So both things are true, but in the case of fasting, GNG is limited to the absolute necessity. In the case of exceeding protein, GNG is a bi-product of the limited need for new mass synthesis.
The excess protein amount is a function of two variables that I see: 1. the normal nitrogen cycle that happens all the time (even while resting) where old cells are destroyed and new cells need to be made. 2. the repair of damaged cells or need for new cells - this includes regeneration from weightlifting, etc…
So - to actually grow, I need to consume protein and work out enough to make that protein useful… Since I’m targeting 140g and I think my internal nitrogen needs are only 100g, then I need to cause enough damage to require 40g of daily repair… or else it gets turned into glucose, spikes insulin and causes fat gain.
That’s my current view - next comes data…
Ilana_Rose
(mole person)
#104
No! I thought about it but wasn’t sure what the outcome would be and was too afraid of harming my yummy steak. I will do it next time. Thanks for the tip!
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#105
Careful now - salt is very powerful. I like it like that but no one else in the family can handle it… they start comparing it for charcuterie … like beef prosciutto…
I would say a little goes a long way depending on how long you age it. One trick it so salt it for a day to dry out the surface as much as possible but then to remove as much of the salt as you can so it’s aging, not curing.
Then again, maybe I’m a salt freak and use more that normal people would… 
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#106
Ok. The fast is broken. I ate my first large carnivore heavy meal last night.
Before was 57G, 4.2K
After, I got to 95G, 1.4K
So… that’s an impressive change in metabolism. Wish I had an RMR to see how that meal alone impacted me. I haven’t done macros but I’m guessing it was probably 150g protein, 250g fat and 30g carbs (hard to negotiate with a wife who’s been cooking for 16 hours)… 3000 calories in one meal.
2 chicken thighs with grilled skin on
1 ribeye
Ox-tail in ox-tail soup
Marrow in bone - bone broth soup
3 egg yolks and 2 strips of bacon
Spicy beef stew
Spicy pork rinds
Vinegar starch-resistant rice and broth soaked keto bread (cultural dish made keto)
2 avocados and ginger strips
4 slices of cheese and 7 slices of prosciutto (I needed them)
Chocolate salt ACV drink with 5 tablespoons of HWC
2 milk choczero bars for desert (been fasting without for 55 days so I indulged)
Stomach hasn’t dealt with animal fat and protein in 2 months… but no real problems… I negotiated a settlement to continue to consume veggies Saturday and Sunday only but then I get to cut them out for the next 53 days.
I might make some exceptions like coffee, raw cacao, EVOO, pickled ginger strips etc… but I’ll get into that later.
I am very thirsty - clearly an insulin spiking meal, but my glycogen is probably filled up and the protein and fat digestion is creating new demands.
Curious what my morning blood tests & weigh in will reveal… still time to place your bets.
Hoping I just keep ketones above 1.0 after all that.
Karim_Wassef
(Karim Wassef)
#107
here’s my closest estimate…
I was actually pretty close in my guess except for underestimating protein and overestimating carbs… so total is ~3000 calories.
and way over my protein target but I’ll settle down here in a bit. I did well with the things I had planned like the eggs and bacon, but the bone broth, cheese slices and prosciutto just took me over the edge.
I know there’s veggies in this list, but I believe in transparency and self accountability - so there it is… I’ll get better and more disciplined.