Is this a plausible theory or is there another explanation?

(Ron) #1

I am a 62 yr old male that started keto in Feb. to counter T2d. When I first started (about one month in) my BG reading dropped to the lowest readings (90-100mg/dl) I had seen since I began monitoring a few years ago. Since those low numbers I have noticed a consistently steady minimal increase that seems to be beyond the dawn affect. I now see RBG between 100-110 mg/dl and up to 120 mg/dl throughout the day (not post meal).I have checked many random time frames and just no longer see a reading under 100 mg/dl.
I am theorizing this as being my insulin resistance is lowering (healing) and allowing the little bit of carb sugars to enter the blood stream (don’t really understand this process)? Is this a feasible assumption or is there another explanation? I’m new to this health thing.:blush:

#2

I am sure others are far more learned than me but it makes some sense.
At first teh body is looking for glucose that you feed it, then you cut off the supply so levels drop, but body say oh no not to worry it is coming and keeps insulin high. Then after some your food sugar is not coming in so insulin drops and BG goes up a bit to normal range. This time it has to work to break down your food for the glucose and the insulin is in better control.

But don’t take my word for it was only a guess.

(Ron) #3

That’s where I am at. Many more smarter friends on this site that I hope will help.:smiley:

(Marianne) #4

Supposedly this is called glucose sparing. I was concerned,too. I checked mine upon waking and post prandial and at first it started dropping TOO low and I absolutely had to snack more often when I was adapting, I would get in the high 50’s, forget what the heck I was doing and making no sense, no lie. Then it was normal for a while and now it is always higher than 100 mg/dL for fasting (morning), even though I take in no sugar and 20 or under grams of carbs. I think it is that dawn theory you mentioned. Some days I wake up from a dead sleep like I am about to run from a predator animal.

Research “adaptive glucose sparing” and that is supposedly the body sparing the glucose for the brain but your actual insulin response is lower. I have noticed that sometimes my mid day (either well after waking or after 2 hours postprandial) glucose is about 90 - 120 but it never, ever spikes more than that. ever. not even within 2 hours of my meals. I pretty much stay within 85-120 without much variation at all. I stopped taking my readings due to this.

But I will do so right this second… 95 mg/dL on a Fora meter (I like my Relion better) All I have had today was a Bulletproof coffee with Stevia (1 Tbs butter, 1 Tbs MCT, 2 Tbs coconut milk and a squirt of Stevia) in a milk frother. That was 3 hours ago. My lunch isn’t for another 45 min, Actually was lower than expected. Have you had an insulin response to glucose test? Although they expect you to carb out over three days and I don’t think I can do that.

(Ron) #5

I am waiting until after 6 month’s on keto before any tests as is recommended on here. My Relion showed 114 mg/dl about an hour ago and all I have had today was decaf coffee with bone broth and a little butter added. I test at many random times (even set alarm ant test at 4:00) and just son’t see under 100 anymore?:roll_eyes:

(Marianne) #6

I am new here, I didn’t know they recommended the tests after 6 months, thank you : ) Like I said, I as honestly surprised to see 95 because for a while there it was just above 100. You’re on about month 4, right? How do you feel? I was all over the place before and then I just kind of really felt so much better this past month. It has been progressively better but I swear it just keeps getting better as the day goes by.

(Ron) #7

I started keto as a new years resolution so have been doing it just over 5 months. I feel great now but did have a hard time during the adaption process. Took about 10 weeks. There are some many changes the body has to go thru that the 6 month recommendation is to allow the body to conform otherwise things can distort the results.
Yes it just keeps getting better and better.:+1:

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #8

@Mari We only recommend waiting till the six-month mark because some people get cholesterol scores at three months that rattle their doctors; by six months things usually look more reasonable. If your doctor is supporting your ketogenic diet, get tested whenever you want; if your doctor is opposed, why give him or her ammunition?

@mtncntrykid Do you know what your HbA1C score is? If it’s below 5.0, then don’t worry about your daily blood glucose, it’s the glucose sparing (also called “physiological insulin resistance”) that Marianne posted about. It’s just the muscles enjoying the ketones and saving the glucose for the cells that can’t do without it.

(Ron) #9

Not since keto, will know in a couple months with the testing.

(Ron) #10

But my brain seem to be getting scattered so it must not be using it there.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #11

I’m sorry—what were we talking about? LOL! :smiley:

(Marianne) #12

My last test I had was two months before keto (included fasting as well):

COMPONENT YOUR VALUE STANDARD RANGE
Hgb A1c % 5.2 % <=5.6 %
ESTIMATED AVERAGE GLUCOSE 103 mg/dL 85 - 126 mg/dL
General information
Collected:
11/17/2017 9:11 AM

COMPONENT YOUR VALUE STANDARD RANGE
Glucose, fasting 91 mg/dL 60 - 99 mg/dL
General information
Collected:
11/17/2017 9:11 AM

I have not seen him since then and he does not know about keto. He will be surprised at fat loss because they kept giving me little hints for a year about exercise and diet and not drink as much. Thank you, Kaiser.

(Ron) #13

Thanks for posting that, gives me hope.:grin::+1:

(Marianne) #14

I just realized you were talking to Paul. Sorry. :slight_smile: Or Ron, I am so confused. I will bow out, didn’t mean to hog thread : )