Is there a way to make the restaurant do as what you requested?

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #41

It’s a staple food there. Lotta interesting recipes for it.

(CharleyD) #42

Had to whip this up in retort:
1g-carb-per-serving-spams-back-on-the-menu-boys

(Rob) #43

I got the that off the photos, but my cursory research suggests that “Product of the USA” per FDA rules actually means it was manufactured in the USA, though ironically, it doesn’t have to be made of US grown pork, although it most likely is. The Mili brand is a local Singaporean retailer probably own-labelling Hormel, Smithfield or similar (which might well be where Bestal is getting theirs from).

(Sophie) #44

I think Smithfield was bought out by a Chinese company a number of years ago.

(Doug) #45

Right you are, Sophie. (I used to be a shareholder in Smithfield). From Wikipedia: Then known as Shuanghui Group, WH Group purchased Smithfield Foods in 2013 for $4.72 billion, more than its market value. It was the largest Chinese acquisition of an American company to date. The acquisition of Smithfield’s 146,000 acres of land made WH Group, headquartered in Luohe, Henan province, one of the largest overseas owners of American farmland.

(CJ Young) #46

I’d like to give the perspective of someone from the back of a professional kitchen. Probably more people then you know ask for little changes here and there and most can be accommodated. Switching a side, or not including something is fine. But often these changes are not feasible.

In the case of fried chicken, more then likely they have chicken pre prepped to be fried, it’s already breaded and just waiting to go in the oil. Sometimes there is no other chicken to fry in the oil, or it’s just not realistic for a busy kitchen to do some requests. Often people will ask for this or that not to be included in a dish but sometimes it’s already all been prepped together so removing a single ingredient isn’t going to happen.

Someone tried to order a cake for a birthday from us last week and asked if it could be keto. Even though I know what that means we don’t have xylitol, stevia, or significant almond flour so we had to say that we couldn’t. Maybe in the future, now that someones asked, we might carry alternative sweeteners but at that time we didn’t have any of those things. We have gluten-free cakes now but we didn’t two years ago. Sometimes it takes enough people asking for something to make it happen.

I know everyone wants what they want but sometimes you just can’t conform to a request. We’re all used to bad reviews from people who aren’t happy with that answer but that’s the reality of the restaurant business. If you are unhappy enough with the service and don’t like that they wouldn’t do what you asked for you should go elsewhere next time. Both you and that restaurant will be happier that way. Hopefully you can find some restaurants in your area that have more ketogenic fair.

(Rob) #47

The spam thickens… da duh daahh!

(Trish) #48

:joy:

(Brian) #49

I hear ya, CJ. I’ve never worked in a restaurant but I understand completely what you’re saying. There is a lot of prep work that goes on way ahead of time. How else would it be possible to offer a customer a dish that takes sometimes hours to prepare… in 10 minutes or so, give or take a few minutes? I did help out in the kitchen with some larger gatherings, maybe 600 - 800 people or so, and I know what goes into at least some of the prep work.

Can’t help but think the OP is looking for what they want in the wrong place. Maybe someone else sells baked chicken instead of fried? Or maybe peel off the breading and just eat the meat? I dunno. Wouldn’t seem to be a lot different than getting a burger and discarding the bun.

Anyway, I’m glad you chimed in.

:slight_smile:

#50

The fried chicken is actually just an example that I throw out to state my point. Maybe it is bad, but I couldn’t think of a better example to show my point.

seriously though, I do know a few restaurants/stalls that are willing to accommodate to my request, like snackz it(a Singapore brand, their main product is Taiwanese fried chicken/pork chop), while other same-kind of stall is not willing to comply to my request(all those so-called famous Taiwanese chain)

Actually I am just using the fried chicken to show an example that I should be able to make some requests that is basically just “minus one step”, and I do think I am legit here: some of the restaurants/stalls there have the chicken/fish fillet without being breaded/battered before the order, and I can see the preparation(battering/breading) of the food. Since it is the case, why not just skip the step? <_< It is not like I want “one more step”: Instead, I actually want “one less step”.

(Brian) #51

If some places will do what you ask, stick with them. If other places will not, take your money and your business to those who cook your food the way you want it.

I honestly don’t see the point in doing things like bad reviews. Seems like a waste of energy to me. Then again, I suspect we’re in way different cultures.

Good luck!

#52

But when almost every place is like that, where to take my business to then? <_<

So I of course want to curse those down first, or else those taking up the places renders it impossible to have other better restaurant. <_<

I also understand that I sound immature, but I don’t care. I just simply don’t have enough EQ to be kind, thanks.

(Banting & Yudkin & Atkins & Eadeses & Cordain & Taubes & Volek & Naiman & Bikman ) #53

Meat cake with mayo frosting.

(Kimberly ) #54

Actually Cloudy you are actually asking for something that is quite complicated cooking wise , frying chicken in breading actually protects the chicken whilst it’s being cooked, if you fried a raw piece of chicken in oil with no breading or without watching it every single second you will end up destroying the piece of chicken. busy kitchens don’t have the time to baby sit food while it’s cooking.

I understand that you don’t have much cooking knowledge, but removing ingredients and processes can make food preparation more difficult especially in an environment where staff may have dozens of orders an hour to cook and prepare.

#55

And I believed that I also mentioned that even if the result is bad, I can promise not to complain and post in the public website to make their name bad. Which means they can just do like how they did normally, just excluding the breading.

Maybe next time I should mention explicitly about me being forgiving of any funny result if my request ends up producing bad result, and prepare a contract for me to sign to protect them.

(Rob) #56

Unfortunately, they have no reason to trust you. You could be an honest person, you could be a scammer looking for trouble. That risk is not worth it.

As they say, Singapore is a fine city… a fine for this, a fine for that. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

#57

Then I can ask to make the contract to protect them.

Besides, how are they so sure that if they don’t comply my request, they won’t get into any trouble? If I really get too frustrated, I also can try my best effort to twist the story and make their name dirty. <_<

And I am seriously tempted to try this on one restaurant to start the killing and the warning. In Chinese, there is something called “kill the chicken to warn the monkey”. I am tempted, just that I am not powerful enough to do this yet.

(Rob) #58

In their eyes, this only makes you strange and dangerous and definitively not worth the bother. If someone comes to you with a contract and says “I want you to do something you don’t want to do, but sign this, it indemnifies you from damage when you do it. I promise.” you’d think them mad or from a hidden camera TV show, and at the very least need to send it to your lawyer who will charge you several hundred $ to review it, probably make a couple of changes… etc.

I think you almost answered your own question… “kill the chicken… cook the chicken how you like it… and leave the poor monkey alone”. Is that a saying? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

#59

Nope. The saying is more like…

“killing the chicken to warn the monkey (idiom); to punish an individual as an example to others”

Just let’s say if there are 100 naughty kids and one of them is being super noisy, so I punish the worst with the heaviest way ever, to show as example that if others are still being naughty/funny, the punishment will be on them as well.

(Trish) #60

I guess it all comes down to if one is not happy with a service a business is providing, one can simply say no thanks and get up and leave. Outside the scope of law you cant force anyone to accommodate you and they can’t force you to be/eat there.
Edited for typo