Is there a November Carnivore Challenge? (90 days)

#41

My resting heart rate is in the high 50s or around 60 now. Not too shabby, I think.

I do the Wim Hoff breathing sometimes and it’s cool to see my heart rate after that.

#42

Wow Bob!! That is sooooo awesome! Keto did help my BP but didn’t really help my bowel issues or psoriasis. I hated high BP!!! I’m so happy for you. I just love NSVs!

#43

I love being in a ketogenic state too. And I had the same experiences. When my protein got too high/fat too low I started feeling like I was on the SAD again.

#44

wow it is wonderful reading the great success that carnivore has given so many.

very encouraging to others.

I have gotten so many great improvements thru carnivore I never could achieve on low carb and a foot into keto.

I think once the true meat eater came out in me and it doesn’t want to go back :slight_smile:

(Cheryl) #45

I’ve just created a new thread for the first week of the Challenge. Check it out!

#46

ohhhh I can’t wait for tomorrow LOL COOL

#47

Thanks :slight_smile:

#48

I have one more question for you, you’re my encyclopedia carnivoria :wink:

My protein macro would be around 88g/day(68kg, 173cm of me :)), but I’m over that number, for sure. Yesterday I ate two portions of sardines for lunch and my dinner was eggs and liver (calf and chicken) - chronometer says I had 114g of protein. I didn’t feel too satiated at both meals, I could have eaten a little more. I can’t imagine how 70g of protein would look, you mentioned that you eat a little under a pound of meat.

(mole person) #49

@Meerkatsandy I can understand how it’s hard to imagine because it was so far out from how I’d ever eaten before that I only got there via a lot of experimentation.

I knew I needed less protein and by extension more fat. I tried using beef tallow, lard, and even butter but didn’t find any of it particularly satiating unless I had amounts that made me feel nauseous. Even then, I wasn’t so much satiated as feeling too gross to eat more.

I started nearly only buying the absolutely fattiest cuts of meat I could find. Beef ribs, bottom blade roast, super fatty rib eyes, short ribs, pork shoulder, lamb shoulder, pork belly. Most of these are 1:1 by weight or better (short ribs are super fatty, nearly 2:1).

I also started experimenting with eating solid beef fat as a side. This is where I got my biggest win. It took me a while to figure out how to prepare it but now that I have this tool I can eat every cut I want again.

And this is important because you are absolutely correct to eat sardines and liver. Those are foods that we should be prioritizing on carnivore, but they aren’t at all fatty and it’s easy to go over on the protein. So with liver I just have an equal quantity of cooked fat. I haven’t tried sardines with beef fat but I mean to try it soon. If it’s unpalatable to mix I will use salmon belly for the fat source. It should be an excellent source of omega 3’s to boot.

So you asked what my food looks like keeping the protein this low so I’ll just show you some typical days from when I was tracking a couple of weeks ago.

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Grr…my phone is misbehaving and not letting me add images to this post. I’ll add a few more days later when it improves. But what’s important is that this feels very right eating this way. The grease never did, I was always choking it down, but the fat is the opposite. The more I eat it the more I want it. I actually did have a can of sardines the other day and as I was eating them all I could think about was that it was dry and really needed much more fat.

Our ancestors were fat eaters and while I’m certain they did have rendered fats in their diet, I’m also certain that they relished more solid cuts of fat as well. Getting both makes eating high fat both simple and satiating.

(Cheryl) #50

Cheryl’s 90 Day Carnivore Challenge: Week One is a new thread (Food Zero Carb / Carnivore heading). Feel free to join me there.

#51

I have to play some added fat games with my eating in that a fatty meat…ribeye steak, country spare ribs with lots of yummy fat…I never add grass fed butter and cook and dip and eat. I used to :slight_smile: oh boy did I but then I realized the meat talks for itself.

I do a can of tuna, I add a lot of mayo.
I do skinless boneless chicken breast, I do a lot of grass fed butter when frying and absolutely dip my meat.

Lean proteins, add good fat.
High fat protein, take away added fat.

THAT IS what it took for me to find great balance.

Eggs I ditched. They never give me anything. Don’t fill me up, leave me feeling deflated and all. Not intolerant or any problems like that, I just ate them and starved LOL

Time on plan makes it work for many. That experimenting and more to see how we fare on what works best for us.

I love chatting carnivore

(mole person) #52

@Meerkatsandy Some additional food logs from October.

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#53

wow that is intensive tracking etc.

you must like doing that. I don’t do anything at all. I eat meat. If I feel the fat is too much etc thru experimenting I change it up. I can’t do the track, the macros, the whatever. I ain’t got it in me LOL

I let nature drag me along and my body tell me what to do. Has it always worked well…nope…lol…but on carnivore I find truer feelings and truer resolutions to what my body wants. quickly. so that helps me fumble around and get good results.

I love your other side of it tho. I love reading up on what it takes for other carnivores. If I get a hair to track and weigh and macro things I know there are so many good others to rely on with great info.

(mole person) #54

Lol…no. I hate doing it. I maybe track a few days every few months. The last time I did it because I was actually curious about what protein to fat I was actually eating.

#55

oh that is so funny :slight_smile:
well ya did a great job of showing what you are doing in track form and I know it is great info to help others!

I think the older I get I go more by the seat of my pants and just let it all roll along as it should. I so believe in the science behind Carnivore that I just go on faith and nice thing is I get the faith results in hard form on me so I know something is going all right for me.

cool

#56

Needless to say I did some carnivore evangelism during my office visit. :smile:
Also messaged my big brother who has had BP issues and T2D to let him know. We did the vegan experiment at the same time, he’s also quit that nonsense but he hasn’t followed me into carnivory. I’m working on him but more by example as he’s really smart and can do his own research if he sees it working with me. Of course, pretty sure my employees think I’m nuts (even the one who’s keto).

I was also so stoked that this morning I visited the zerocarbcarnivore shop on Etsy and ordered a couple of shirts I’ve been wanting.
I already have a couple of carnivore t shirts but I wanted more.

I’m a big book nerd so I have Dr. Shawn Baker’s book on pre-order.

#57

@Ilana_Rose thank you so much for sharing your dailies, I smell a new experiment for me :slight_smile:
Come to think of it, a 400g steak is a pretty decent piece of meat.
I had sardines dipped in EVOO and salt, but I will definitely start tracking again, just to see how much of what I would eat and then see what works.

#58

are you in the new challenge? coming along with us carnivores :slight_smile:

yea even some keto people have hard cored thoughts on ‘nutrition’ and what ‘plants’ the body requires. True Carnivores go by the protein and fat only required by the body for absolute survival and can truly live without one carb in their body from any source other than meat proteins. The body makes everything it requires from protein and fat. Protein being ‘animal/seafood’ best obviously.

It is where you are at on your journey and what goes down on true results from your personal body on what plan. I get that. Big changes in nutrition are hard to handle. Will always be that way til ‘the man’ takes control of our eating and gives us no choices any more in our lives. Hope that never happens but with the manufactured foods and gmo and tons more we are heading for it. Silent but deadly.

I love carnivore tshirts HA

#59

Not really part of the challenge as this has become my way of life anyway, hopefully long term if it continues to be as helpful as it seems to be so far. I’ll be popping in any time I feel I might have something useful to add or just to encourage.

With very few exceptions I’m not much of a “joiner”. :slight_smile:

#60

I so understand.

As you do your journey pop in and give any info that you find incredible to your path.

Us carns love to hear other carns doing fabulous :slight_smile: If even only a drive by post LOL