The other day I found myself and another forum participant talking past each other when it was clear we were preaching to the same choir we both belong to.
My original premise was that in the ‘adapt’ stage and those on a keto diet wanting to lose weight (which by default would include them being at some level of ketosis) that reduced calorie intake was required to lose weight. The other person wanted to argue that ketosis was necessary ( I never said it wasn’t and stated at least by inclusion in the original premise that is was (although now I believe it may or may not be after further research)
I started to ask myself why is this person defending what we both agree on and then began to realize it was much like the classic bit in Monty Python’s Life of Brian where splits in Brian’s followers occur between the shoe and the gourd.
Then I started thinking about cults themselves and the typical traits of cults and realized that keto followers have many of those (me included until I had these doubts).
Cults - groupthink - firehouse chat, etc.
A few intros -
We’ve probably all known someone that just became ‘born again’ and easily becomes the most vociferous of bible thumpers despite a life long history of lying, cheating, stealing and often with no plans to change any of that because they’re now operating under god’s forgiveness. What the hell would they need yours for?
Here is someone I knew personally - https://www.ssb.texas.gov/news-publications/timothy-lloyd-booth-sentenced-68-years
Now in an interenetwebs first - I’d like to apologize and correct something I strongly argued for just a few days ago.
To nurse April - I was wrong to tell you to circumvent your current employer. Not for any of the reasons others suggested but specifically because I learned from a friend that tried keto starting New Years 2019 and by early February was having heart and Afib issues that there can be serious side affects for some people on keto.
Basically, he started keto to lose some extra weight but he was an otherwise fit and active 52 year old. In the first month he had a paroxysmal atrial fibrillation that sent him the the ER and an overnight in the ICU. Once back in sinus rhythm he resumed his keto diet and had a second attack in March that just about coincided with the release of the study on the link between keto diets and Afib. At that time he stopped doing keto and has had no more afib events and is not on any meds.
I hadn’t heard of this before and came to this forum and other sources to understand better as is my role as a keto cult member.
But what I saw were basically blanket denials and criticisms of the research and protocols itself instead of a non-cultish view of “hmmmm… it could be possible for some people” and even an understanding of published research, peer review and other responsibilities out of my lane and above my paygrade.
So is keto a cult ?
Here’s a new study released in JAMA (with full expectations that it will be attacked from many angles - if not already elsewhere in the forum)
With all of that said - here’s what I think keto is good for:
Helps develop diet discipline: for me fast food, and processed junk are out of my life for good.
Helps make IF possible and easier: the full feeling that comes from keto makes 18 hour + fasting and OMAD much easier to tolerate.
Resets sweet sensors - I cheated the other day at a restaurant and ordered a Coke Zero out of old habit. It tasted like hell. A few sips was all I needed and I dumped it out (self serve refills) and had water. Brocolli is now ‘sweet to me’ as are a lot of vegetables.
Partially responsible in reversing type II: The data is equally strong for fasting as it is for keto. While I don’t see me adding cake and ice cream anytime soon (except pastries when I am in Paris) I’m ok with having a little bit of carbs at the end of any meal. (currently 2MAD).
Retrains the cellular performance of those with metabolic syndrome and type II to normal. This return to normalcy can promote higher activity levels in those that were sedentary or extremely fatigued after exercise.
Probably some other things I am not thinking of right now or haven’t experienced yet but that’s enough for now.
The question remains though - Is keto a cult or at the least a groupthink and are you able to accept and adapt to new information that contradicts your current view of keto as the cat’s pajamas?
A few days ago I believed it was. I have some doubts now.
The most definitive proof that this is a cult or groupthink will be if this post is deleted.