Is a whole food carb the same as a Twinkie Carb?

#1

I know this has probably been asked.

I have a big event coming up and there is a potion I make from frozen fruits, vegetables, honey and flax that seems to ward off colds. I used to drink it daily and did not get a cold for two years.

Since keto I have gotten two colds and am fighting a 3rd. I have a really big event this weekend I cannot get sick and while I do not want insulin spikes or weight, the cold would be worse. I made the potion last night and drank some. It is probably high in carbs made from mango, berries and beets. I need to keep drinking about 6 ozs a day.

Is there anything better about fruit carbs or are they the same as wheat carbs which I would never eat anyway. I realize by weight fruit has less

(Ethan) #2

I think the answer is yes and no. Carbs are all turned into glucose in the body, but at different rates and with somewhat varying insulin effects. Fruits will have more vitamins and flavonoids than whole wheat, so it makes sense that one may be better for you than the other with the same number of carbs. If the number of carbs you are consuming kicks you out of ketosis, then it will do so probably regardless of whether the carbs come from mangos and beets or wheat.

(Allan Misner) #3

As EZB noted, the blood sugar effect is likely the same. But they’re very different in other respects. You’ll get better nutrition from the whole food carbs. You’ll get artificial this and that (likely causing inflammation) from the Twinky carbs.

(Todd Allen) #4

The form also matters. For example apple juice or orange juice can spike blood sugar faster and higher than eating an apple or an orange where the intact fiber slows digestion and the rate of release of the sugars.

(CharleyD) #5

From what I’ve learned from Lustig and Fung, the concept is that nature provides the antidote with the poison. In fruit’s case, the indigestible fiber along with the glucose/fructose will slow the digestion and blunt a spike of blood sugar. This is why juicing or drinking just the fruit juice is not recommended, removing the fiber leaves the sugar by itself and I’d bet is as rapidly absorbed as a Twinkie.

Vinegar, esp ACV also blunts glucose spikes. What I’ve done since starting this WOE is to make sure I include vinegar when I take my carbs, think Kimchi with a roll of Maki sushi, or a shot of ACV with your remedy.

(VLC.MD) #6

True.

But fruit isn’t really natural.

At least fruit is food. Twinkies aren’t even food.

(Ethan) #7

I believe they are “processed food product.”

(CharleyD) #8

Sorry, I didn’t address your actual question, hah. When you are talking about wheat are you referring to refined grains? While a lot of wheat carbs wouldn’t have the fructose, they do generally have the fiber removed if you’re talking about flour.

So some would consider the fructose in fruit bad, but given that a whole-food fruit will still contain its fiber and water, it has some redeeming qualities there. Wheat and grain starches will digest to glucose, quickly. If I had to do it, I’d take fruit over wheat any day.

Just remember that honey is usually around 50/50 fructose/glucose.

Let us know if the potion still works!

#9

It worked well. Although I had a touch of something and my lips were chapped, that is nothing compared to a full blown cold. It is being tested again this weekend as one of my other kids has a cold. They refuse to take the potion, saying they would rather be sick!

Everything in it is whole food, I do not juice but instead put everything into the blender with some water. I used to use the blueberry Trop 50 but forgot this time. I made a huge batch and froze it can drink a little

(Jennifer) #10

Something that works for me and is still keto.

If I get sick, I’ll do this and chase it with a spoonful of Manuka honey. That isn’t keto, but is one of the best anti-bacterial substances out there.