Makes me wonder if “high” triglycerides might not be bad for keto/carnivore/low carb folks? Maybe “high” triglycerides are bad when they have a lot of polyunsaturated fats, but not bad when they have a lot of saturated fats? Most/all of the date based on triglycerides are based on data from high carb/normal standard diet eaters.
Interesting Substack about triglycerides
kib1
(KM)
#2
I find that a continuing conundrum. Do any of the tests or even the folk wisdoms apply to us? When we do have symptoms, are they a sign of the same issue that people eating a completely different diet are experiencing, in which case diet is unrelated, or are they created by our own dietary patterns. Kind of impossible to know, if they’re never testing a truly keto/carnivore population.
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#3
Yeah, it’s very difficult to tell. We’d have to have keto/carnivore/low carb folks in one group who ALSO get higher trigs versus normal folks with similar trigs. One problem is that trigs usually really do go down with keto/carnivore/low carb, but not always.
And I find that trigs vary a lot. I’ve had a low of 54 (mg/dL) to a high of 147. (My highest levels were 157 and 158, but those were after 4.5 days of fasting, and not a “normal” overnight fasting.) That’s over about 10 years though. And I get stuff like this:
It goes date, total cholesterol, LDL, HDL, trigs. In two weeks, things changed substantially. On the 10/31/16 test, I had a very high fasting insulin (33), and this was before I went on vacation. I was so shocked that I wanted to get a second test after I got back from vacation. I ate a worse – though not terrible – diet on vacation, came back and took the tests on 11/14/16. Which, even with the worse diet for a while, had lower insulin (24) and lower trigs. I’ve never been able to explain that.