Insulin resistance! Why there are two result?

(Ajmal Bin Abu) #1

What is this insulin resistance all mean? Does it mean Insuling is not working? Or insufficient insulin from pancreas or cell are not doing actual job?
Its said that the couse of obesity is insuling resistance. Since insulin not doing its job the excess glucose pass to liver and stored as glycojen and gradually to other organs and under the skin. This glycojen then turned as fat and that’s how how a person gain weight. And final result is an obese person with diabetic.

Then some cases person loose weight after diagnosing with diabetic! Her the result is a lean person with diabetic.

How this both formula works?
In both cases the cause is insulin resistance!!

(Karen) #2

Not sure what you mean. Type one diabetic has not enough insulin produced or no insulin produced. Insulin needs to be added medically to get energy into our sugar into the cells. By injection. Although I understand some type one diabetic‘s can become ketogenic Not sure if that’s true or not or if I remember it wrong.
Type two diabetic is different they’re just insulin resistant. I think many many many people here or type two diabetics. Although some people are just trying to reduce fat or get Metabolically healthy.

(Frank) #3

Read the obesity code by dr Jason fung. It will become clear.

(Allison D) #4

Insulin resistance means there is insulin being produced, but the body is resistant to it. Our goal is to become insulin sensitive.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #5

Type I diabetes is an autoimmune disease; the body’s immune cells attack the β cells in the Isles of Langerhans in the pancreas. The body soon can no longer produce insulin, and eventually the patient, if untreated, dies either from starvation or from diabetic ketoacidosis. (A certain minimum level of insulin in the body is required for health.)

Type II diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate intolerance. A carbohydrate is a string of glucose molecules, and excessive glucose in the blood is dangerous, potentially fatal. So the body secretes insulin to move the glucose into the muscle to be metabolized, or else into the fat tissue to be stored as triglycerides. When the muscles fill up with glucose or glycogen (the storage form of glucose), they become insulin-resistant, and it takes more and more insulin to force them to accept more glucose. The liver cannot accept glucose past a certain point and it, too becomes insulin-resistant (the liver also becomes insulin-resistant if required to deal with too much fructose—table sugar is half-glucose and half-fructose). The fat cells eventually reach their capacity to store fat, and then they, too, become insulin resistant. And so it goes.

Insulin resistance begins years before the blood glucose rises enough for a diagnosis of Type II, and the high level of insulin takes its toll on all the body’s systems. Furthermore, the strain of producing enough insulin to force the muscles, organs, and fat tissue to accept more glucose damages the pancreas, and the β cells start to die. If untreated, Type II diabetes can eventually kill them all off, though fortunately for Type II diabetics, this process takes quite some time. By the time Type II has advanced to this point, the constant high insulin level in the body has called all sorts of other damage, as well. Part of the problem is that Type II is really a problem of excessive insulin, but the medical profession operates on the assumption that it is a problem of excessive glucose, and the resulting treatment with additional glucose really only worsens the damage.

(Candy Lind) #6

I think what you are asking is “how can a person lose weight, get thin or ‘normal’ and still be insulin resistant?” Is that correct?

The answer is, it takes a lot more than just weight loss to become insulin sensitive, once you’ve become insulin resistant. Your endocrine system (hormonal organs) has to heal a lot of damage, as @PaulL stated.

To do this, you have to decrease carb intake to the point that the body will go to your fat cells for energy on a regular basis, like it would have done before you became insulin resistant. Your pancreas continues to malfunction, sometimes for YEARS, even after weight loss gets to the “normal” range, if too many carbs are ingested. It will continue to heal, but it takes a long time.

This may not be all of the story, but I think it might be what you wanted to know. If I’m wrong, please try asking again.

(Karen) #7

Nicely said

(Wendy) #8

Excellent summery! :+1:

(Bob M) #9

I think the term “insulin resistance” is multifaceted. One level of insulin resistance is caused by fatty/deranged pancreas and liver. These are helped, possibly repaired, by low carb and even more by fasting (either intermittent or long term).

Insulin resistance also refers to the insulin resistance of cells. Gary Taubes likes to compare the insulin resistance fat cells versus muscle cells, for instance. This can be helped (for muscle cells anyway) by exercise, especially weight lifting.

Then, there’s a new theory that the type of fat you eat affects the insulin resistance/insulin sensitivity of your fat cells. Saturated fat makes them insulin resistant, which in this case is good, as they cease to grow and make you less hungry. Polyunsaturated fat (mainly from seed oils, but possibly from chicken, eggs, pork, almonds…) causes fat cells to be insulin sensitive, which is bad, as they keep taking in energy and get bigger. You’re hungry.

That may or may not be the explanation you wanted, but as far as I can tell, it’s true.

(Ajmal Bin Abu) #10

@ctviggen, now your reply makes me confused!

(Bob M) #11

It makes me confused, too. :confused:

(Ajmal Bin Abu) #12

Yes thanks for the reply.
All i wanted to gain some weight while on keto diet. Since i am a type 2 sugar patient i cannot touch carbs.
So i was in a search what is the real cause of my insulin resistance. Before starting keto diet after i diagonised by type2 diabetis i had lost 3 to 4 kg.
I lost almost 7 kg after keto. i am 178cm tall and BMI is 21. I want to make it atleast 24 BMI.
I have seen people have diadetis2 havnt lost weight, and others(my type) lost weight.
So i wanted to know is it a pancrease malfunction or something to do with liver cells. How can cells become insulin sensitive, so that i can add a little amount of carb to gain some weight.

(Bob M) #13

Do you exercise? Lifting weights would be good, and if you don’t go to a gym, you can do body weight exercises, pushups and the like. Search for Dr Ted Naiman.

(Ajmal Bin Abu) #14

I am a sports person, plays 4 days 2 hours daily badminton. Sweats a lot. But not weight lifting. Should i move to wieght lifting to gain mass?

(Bob M) #15

The easiest thing to do is to test it. If you go to Dr. Naiman’s web site, you could find 3-4 body weight exercises and do them before badminton. Try that for a month to see what happens.

(Ajmal Bin Abu) #16

Great! I will check it for sure. :slight_smile: