Inquiring mind of my husband!


(Tammy Kidd) #1

I am fortunate enough to have my husband on board with me in my lifestyle. In the past couple weeks we have watched “That Sugar Film”, “Fed Up” and “Food Inc.”. He had a very good question for me afterwards. He said " If all of this proof and science is out there why is our government not doing something about it ?" …Very good question!..Personally i think it all leads back to the $$$$…any thoughts?


(G. Andrew Duthie) #2

Money, and the reluctance of self-appointed “experts” to admit they were wrong.


(Mark Rhodes) #3

My hunch is twofold. The lobbies representing the “health food” & sugar industries and the very bias I had coming to keto prevented me from seeing the evidence for what it was. Remember how we had to throw out everything we knew and start fresh, as if learning it for the first time? Now place yourself in a doctor’s position. Harm no one. Accepting this truth is to understand you sentenced people to a slow lingering illness and sometimes death all predicated on the assumption we are meant to be glucose operating primarily. Cognitive Dissonance at the height of Festinger’s model!


#4

Hi, @tammy_steve1219. At the beginning of my keto journey (just five little weeks ago), I recall reading that the branch of government responsible for the almighty ‘food pyramid’ (now food plate, or whatever it’s called) is none other than the Department of Agriculture.

Apparently, for 50 years or so now, no one’s had a problem with the fact that the governing group responsible for the economic health of our country’s crops (the largest being wheat, soy and corn) is also in charge of dictating our optimal diet. Surprise, surprise: Carbs have made up the largest part of their recommendation for decades.

Before keto, I was never much of a conspiracy theorist. Times have changed.


#5

Your husband makes a great point. The crap we’ve been told to eat the last several decades will, in my opinion, define us for centuries. The exploding number of diseases caused by the SAD diet will have some serious repercussions for a long time going forward. That’s why my thoughts on the Healthcare debate are a little different. To me it’s not “why can’t we afford to insure everyone” it’s “why are healthcare costs so high to begin with?”. We are trying to mop the floor while the tub is overflowing. Thankfully there are smart people like us who are beginning to figure this stuff out for ourselves.


#6

Money, because businesses would collapse.
Environment, because more edible flesh required.
Pharma, because they need to keep selling you pills.
Government, because when a President stands up to them and their lobbyists. They need to be able to call him a fascist, a racist, a bigot, and an idiot.

Wash, rinse, repeat…


(John) #7

Money was the first thing that came to my mind, and to look into that a bit I did a little research on statins and this part is key, and very very surprising.

The best-selling statin is atorvastatin, which in 2003 became the best-selling pharmaceutical in history.

Just 1 brand of statin, 14 years ago before they got really wide spread, was best selling in history.

This has been around a few years as well.


#8

Then you will also know the maker of the statin, is Pfizer. Making baby food was also their business. Get em while they’re young!


(Tammy Kidd) #9

Yes i agree!


(Tammy Kidd) #10

My reply to my husband was that there would be so many lawsuits it would break our whole economy. I love spreading the word about Keto and i will never go back to the SAD eating. Can you imagine what will happen when it does come about?


(Linda Culbreth) #11

If you dig just a little, you will find that the government subsidies are the largest are for those 3 things - wheat, soy, & corn, So, hear me out on my reasoning - gov’t pays the most amount of to help the very agricultural items that are causing insulin T2D, obesity and the Good Lord only knows what else and then having to subsidize medical care, while so many are getting sicker and sicker, and losing more and more days of productivity. I live in an area where those 3 items cover thousands of acres. I have noticed that a great deal of these farmers and their families are not immune to the maladies their very own crops contribute to.In the meantime, how much is paid from the growers’ associations just to keep those crops cheaper to the public.


#12

So correct, @justme. As a result of the government subsidies, farmers can’t afford to grow the varied vegetable crops we desperately need to be healthy. What kind of backwards society does this to its people?

I have faith the food revolution will happen eventually, wherein large groups stop supporting big food. But at the moment, everyone is addicted to this garbage.

I believe this time in history will be considered the dark ages of food. Disease and death on a global scale due to a nightmarish diet we all embrace. Future generations are going to think we were very stupid. Can’t say I blame them.


#13

I do not think we will be completely rid of bad food ever for a number of reasons:

  1. Money, whether farmer subsidies or Nestle profits.

  2. It tastes good and we are genetically programmed to want it (from the days when sugar was scarce).

  3. Our society is trained to want the quick and authoritative fix. Whether it is a pill or surgery, get it done, never mind that it took you 30 years to gain weight, a couple of weeks of plateau and it is not working and is abandoned.

  4. The bias. People hear keto and Atkins, and you are automatically doing it wrong. You are skipping breakfast, you are supposed to be hungry in the morning, what the heck is wrong with you if you are not? You need fruit for the phytonutriets. How can you not eat fruit?! You are supposed to eat a moderate diet from different food sources, eliminating no food groups, are you not?

  5. Keto sounds hard and not appealing for most women who miss their pasta but are ok with Quinoa. While it sounds biased, in most mixed family (male/female) households women still control the diet and what is served. Many men, my husband included, hear have steak all day and they are ok. Most women like steak but could not imagine eating it all day. They are programmed by society to eat salad to lose weight.

  6. Probably the worst is there is no nutritional consensus. Diet has become another religion. You believe this is the way to eat. The Ornish fans believe that is the best way and so on. Adherents to the Dash diet believe moderation is best. There is no irrefutable science anywhere for anything. I listen to tons of podcasts and the truth is we spend lots of time critiquing the low cal and high carb diet studies and why they are bad because that is our bias. I am sure the vegan podcasts are critiquing Keto studies. We are a society that demonized fat for 50 years. It is automatic at this point. Never mind that food and drug companies control which studies get funded or pay researchers to find reasons sugar is healthy


(Mike Glasbrener) #14

Yeah, I think that’s basically true. Big pharma makes money selling “cures”. That big money is used for influencing public policy and medical industry associations which fund directed studies. Industry group think which punishes heretics (no funding, extra scrutiny, not published) perpetuates the main stream. There’s not nearly the money to be made selling a healthy diet which fixes all the metabolic problems. Maybe a few books, movies, web sites, YouTube/podcast… Big pharma likely makes more money in an hour than all these combined in a year.


#15

Here is an interesting perspective. As usual we got the meat and climate change and sustainability aspect wrong it seems


#16

Yeah, but for the past 40 years its been all about population control. Psychologists govern everything from advertising, to the books children get to read In school. Pavlov’s dogs. Its inescapable for the majority.