Ice bath affects on ketosis test for fun


(Thomas P Seager, PhD) #21

For those with good blood sugars, a cold shower causes your liver to release glucose into your bloodstream, and your white fat cells to release lipids, in preparation for thermogenesis. So your brown fat cells are burning everything they can get: glucose, lipids, ketones, to maintain body temperature. Those in ketosis prior to cold exposure could very well see a temporary drop in ketone levels because the liver will replenish blood sugars faster than it will replenish blood ketone levels.


#22

and ice bath for fun! One poster said it it all----CAN NOT COMPUTE!
old thread but too funny and wow on that experiment, takes guts and glory I don’t have :wink:


#23

Ahh I see. Thanks for the insight and if I have anything else to add through noticing something out of the ordinary from my personal experiments, I’ll be sure to share them with the community.


(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #24

Like pretty much everything I suspect there’s at least some genetic predisposition as well. Those of us with the ā€˜predisposition’ burn everything available to keep the temp up via thermogenesis. My experience is that I will get hungry before feeling cold. When I start to feel cold it’s because I didn’t eat soon enough to refuel. I suspect those without the ā€˜predisposition’ tend to add insulation rather than ā€˜turn up the heat’.


(Thomas P Seager, PhD) #25

I don’t have the science on the genetic predisposition, but what you’re saying makes sense to me. My ancient ancestors are from the North Sea in Europe, and I live in Phoenix AZ. I’ve become convinced that I need cold exposure to maintain metabolic health because (for whatever reason), I’m not built for the desert climate.


(T. Alex) #26

https://www.youtube.com/live/7cqS4Qctqrs?si=6yWsE6qP3WoJo_uv

This seemed pretty relevant to this discussion. I’m particularly interested in the part at the 12:15 mark where they speak of females doing one arm cold plunge therapy. That’s all that I’m set up for as of now. I’m definitely finding that my glucose goes up after I sleep, workout & it seems even after eating too much protein. I know glucose is stored in fat and that protein can trigger a release but I’ve been insulin resistant for so many years, I guess that it’ll take a year or more to reverse it & get consistent high ketosis/low glucose numbers after I’ve eaten anything. I’ve just started arm plunging so I’ll get back with my results.


(Bob M) #27

So, plunge one arm only into an ice bath? That is a lot easier than finding something where you can get your whole body in.


(T. Alex) #28

Heck yeah man. I’ve only whole body once but hauling all that ice, etc was time consuming & heavy. Now it mentions females-which I am, & using the non dominant arm. I wish I could find more info on the study. But for now, 10 frozen water bottles & a plastic tote & I’m trying it out. I’ve been testing with my keto mojo-but I’m new at that too-only had it 3 weeks, so just figuring out when I naturally dump insulin has been tricky, plus determining if it’s what I ate that spiked it or not, so I won’t know if it helps me for a bit. Plus, I only lasted 15 seconds the first time, then 20, now 45 so I’m working my way up-lol This was the only place on the web I could find anyone talking about plunging & ketosis time correlations so I figured it’d be a good place to post what I heard. Anyone else have any idea how long it takes from the time you plunge-ALMOST or lightly in ketosis, to get to a moderate or high ketosis & water temperature & length of plunge? I’m not against getting a horse trough if anyone has specific information that it’ll helpšŸ˜‚


(Bob M) #29

Glucose going up in the morning is called glucose sparing. I’m still not entirely sure why the body does this, but it’s common for folks on low carb. My blood sugar is highest in the morning and lowest right before bed.

My glucose goes up during exercise too, though supposedly lower intensity exercise like walking makes it go down. I haven’t tested that though.

I looked into getting some cheaper ice baths, but even a ā€œcheapā€ one for the whole body isn’t that cheap, and then you have to get enough ice for the whole body. I’ll be interested to see if you notice anything with a single arm bath.

I stopped looking into this area after I realized it was too expensive and too hard to do a whole body ice bath. So, I’m not sure what effect this is supposed to have. I know I’ve listened to podcasts about this, but I think I blocked it out since I knew it wouldn’t apply to me.


(Tracy) #30

Interesting, I haven’t been having ice baths but I have recently been swimming in our local lake which is pretty cold. To the point where my hands and feet started to go numb. Once home and after a warm shower and tea is seemed to take forever to warm up. It didn’t occur to me to check my bloods , I must remember the next time.