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#1

Iā€™ve been fasting for close to 4 months doing 16:8.

I canā€™t get to sleep until 2am or later. I wake up sometimes at 5am wired unable to sleep for hours. After giving up dairy the wired feeling is even more real!

I read that daily fasting can be bad for women and that I should be doing this 3-4 times a week instead of daily. But I feel like 16:8 isnā€™t a long window and more time restrictive eating.

There is a lot of talk on it being bad for women to do daily but not men because of our hormones. Also, I take magnesium at night. Any other supplements that might induce sleep other than melatonin?

Experiences ladies?! I miss sleepingā€¦

(Tamela Robinette) #2

I just recently added Inositol, 5-HTP and L-theanine as I suffer from the same symptoms. It seems to be helping me fall asleep a lot quicker and sleep a little more sound. I ordered magnesium oil and a good bioavailable magnesium on Amazon as well. Iā€™ve been on Flexeril, a muscle relaxer for sleep issues for over 10 years and it just doesnā€™t work anymore, plus I no longer have health insurance as I recently lost my job so supplements will have to do. Supposedly you have to take the Inositol for 2 to 3 months for results but as I said the combination seems to be working for me, although I do wake up early still.

#3

Melatonin is the thing I see most often used to combat the problem. I used it for a while after my parents died, to try and help me fall asleep. It worked pretty well. But only to a degree as it didnā€™t stop the recurring nightmares. (If you donā€™t have some underlying trauma like that to deal with, it will probably work better.)
Ultimately, I ended up seeing my doctor, and taking half an Ambien - which gave me incredibly bizarre dreams. So I quit it those, and started taking a couple Benadryl every night for a few weeks. Which, I think got me into a definite sleeping pattern, and the problem faded away.

Currently, I take a hot bath, then pop a little magnesium, and I sleep incredibly well. So, maybe Melatonin could be a good starting place for you. HTH

(Alex ) #4

Iā€™m not a girl, but I wholly second the hot bath, and Melatonin approach, and additionally chamomile tea / supplements which have natural anti-anxiety properties. the more you can do to naturally relax yourself before you try to sleep the better.

(traci simpson) #5

I have sleep problems and I find that green or black tea with a pinch of black pepper, 1/4 tsp of turmeric and ginger (I use fresh roots and put them in the freezer which makes it easier to grate). Let that steep for 4 minutes, then heat and add 1/4 C tart cherry juice (do not let boiled). I get sleepy about 20-30 minutes after.
Iā€™ve also added ashwagandha drops as well.

(Carl Keller) #6

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https://perfectketo.com/keto-insomnia/

(traci simpson) #7

So I have to say as a sleep sufferer for YEARS, the only ones that work for me is the meditation and the room temperature. thatā€™s it and that doesnā€™t always help either.

(Candy Lind) #8

Iā€™m currently having a TERRIBLE time with insomnia. It may be related to my having stopped taking magnesium (I was taking too much and getting heart palpitations). I may try adding one dose a day at nighttime to see if that helps. I also might try the formula called ā€œCalmā€ or something like that to see if it makes a difference. I also appreciate the other suggestions and the excellent info graphic. No matter what I try, Iā€™ll report back! Glad to have seen this first thing when I popped into the forum this morning.

(traci simpson) #9

I mentioned in another post some tea: Green or black tea with a pinch with tart cherry juice. About 1/4 cup (warmed to boil point but not boiling). I use it with an non inflammatory mixture of 1/4tsp ginger and turmeric.

(Candy Lind) #10

I wondered about the carbs in this? I used to drink it for anti-inflammatory properties but I donā€™t want another capsule to take. :thinking:

(traci simpson) #11

True - this was before my KETO start and I know there are carbs but maybe not so much for 1/4 cup which is like a shot glass full. I also just got Ashwagandha drops that my doctor said might help as well.

(Scott) #12

For me what worked was getting up at 4:30 AM and running. Even so I go to bed at 10:00 at the latest and often wake up between 3:00 and 4:00 AM. Havenā€™t used an alarm in decades.

(Troy) #13

I shared this before
But, Dr. Jockers shares some natural herbs to help w sleep

Good Luck

(Full Metal KETO AF) #14

Iā€™ve had short sleeping hours for years. I was really concerned about it and went to a sleep behavior specialist last fall. She didnā€™t really help me get more sleep but taught me that itā€™s okay to sleep less if youā€™re doing what you can to get more rest (see the graphic chart above).

I tried melatonin but it didnā€™t help me. If you canā€™t get to sleep try deep relaxation instead of worrying about not getting sleep. Your body will still be getting positive results from the resting. And you will most likely drift in and out of sleep without knowing it. I go to bed and get about 5-6 hours of sleep most nights with the occasional 7+ hours thrown in. Try to sleep earlier and get up earlier, I am a reforming night owl and itā€™s better to try to follow the natural circadian rhythm. Weā€™re only nocturnal because of electric lights and TV/monitor screens keeping us up later than we would naturally. :cowboy_hat_face:

(Tamela Robinette) #15

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Ok I seriously hate taking pills and I have tried many to help with my sleep issues. Iā€™ve always taken a magnesium ā€œcomplexā€ to help with sleep and other issues even before going keto. After reading info on the forums about how a high quality bisglycinate mag helped people with their sleep, I ordered this off of Amazon. Let me tell ya! I slept 8 hours last night! My Fitbit said I hit my deep sleep and my REM! I havenā€™t slept 8 hours solidly in years! I combined it with the supplements I mentioned earlier, the L-theanine, Inositol, and 5-HTP but I have been taking those with only slight success. I believe the bisglycinate is my game changer!

(carol mclintock) #16

I am a veteran insomniac but have recently started using inulin powder as a supplement (mix 10 grams in a cup of warm water and drink about an hour before bed), as well as a magnesium supplement and although itā€™s early days, it seems to be having a positive effect on me.

I also have a cup of chamomile, hemp or Ayurvedic tea which just relaxes me a bit.

(*Tame Those Ghrelin Gremlins) #17

Well I had a bad week stretch of insomnia. I took melatonin, magnesium, and GABA supplements right before bed. I also started listening to meditation music while relaxing before bed. Burn a lavender candle, dim lights. After about 3-4 days of that routine my sleep went back to normal.