I fell so badly


(Pri) #1

Where to start I have fallen so badly from this keto wagon. I want to start again. But tomorrow is never coming. I have gained good 15’pounds. I have done so good losing more than 80 pounds but gained 15 back over last 4 months. Life has been really hard on me lately, got separated from my husband lately(yes I did it at last). But I want to loose those 15 pounds again. I don’t have access to meat for next 2 months and a wedding is in mid December. Can I loose 15 pounds until than? I would love to hear some motivation and ideas. I feel like I forgot everything and how to start again on keto journey I have been eating lot of carbs sugar. Because I am stressed and scared. Please please advice.


(Robert C) #2

Not having access to meat for 2 months is an odd restriction.

“mid December” is 3 or 4 weeks away so water fasting is your only true chance.
Simply restarting keto will keep your weight pretty much level while you fat adapt again.
Keto is not a quick weight loss diet - it is a slow weight loss diet after fat adaptation (other than quick drops/gains due to water weight changes).


(Susan) #3

I am so happy for you and your children that you got out of that horrid, abusive situation, Pri =). You should be proud of yourself for doing this, and hugs =). I understand that your stress levels must be high; but Keto has helped several people on the forum with stress, depression and anxiety, so getting back on track should really help you cope =).

At least you are getting back on track now, when you have only gained 15. You lost 80 before, in the midst of a major stressful marriage, so you can do this as a single, strong mom. Do this for yourself, and for your children. Show them your strength, show them that you and them can be happy and healthy and thrive without him.

I know you said you don’t access to meat; can you still get a hold of eggs? or any other source of proteins? I would concentrate on what proteins you can get a hold of, and healthy fats you can access, such as butter, EVOO, Coconut products, just focus on keeping your carbs at 20 grams or less and no sugars. I think that will work still. Since the basics are keeping your carbs as low as possible and no sugars, this should be good.

Best wishes and welcome back =).


(Windmill Tilter) #4

I’m really happy for you that you got out of that situation. You should be proud of yourself! It takes guts to do what you did. You didn’t fall down. You stood up for yourself and your young children, which is about the most admirable thing anyone can do. Likewise, you didn’t gain 15lbs, you dropped 200lbs of dead weight (husband) that didn’t treat you with the respect and love you deserve, so you’re really ahead by 185lbs.

I know you’re situation is super stressful and scary right now, and I’m not trying to minimize that in the least, I’m just trying to put it in the context that I see. I thing you’re an amazingly strong woman. You have a good education, and a good work history, and things will sort themselves out in due course if you hang in there. :slight_smile:

Now, about the weight. If you went off keto and back to carbs and sugar, you have to consider that at a great deal of that was simply water. When we go into ketosis, most of us lose around 5% by bodyweight in glycogen/water. We gain that 5% back when go off keto.

If memory serves, that would mean you regained 7lbs of water weight. If you go back on keto, you’ll drop that 7lbs pretty quick. So really we’re only looking at 8lbs of fat regain. That’s not much. In fact, it’s quite incredible that you regained so little given your stressful situation. After an 80lb weight drop, the body works very hard to regain weight back to a set point. In reality you’ve done quite well! Most people regain far more after a drop of that magnitude.

Dropping 8lbs by mid December would be challenging, but certainly possible. The lack of meat would be challenging but not impossible. There are vegan ketonians here who hopefully will chime in with some ideas.

Hang in there. We’re all rooting for you. :+1: :+1::+1:


#5

I’m not the best to give advice, seeing I never lost any fat on keto yet… But lack of meat shouldn’t be a problem if you have other good protein sources. I mostly eat eggs myself and while I can eat very many of them, it’s never their fault I lose nothing, it’s the other items. Eggs are easy, tasty and very satiating. I don’t know what was your keto like but eat those items if you have them and still find them good for you!

Don’t you have some nice keto recipes? My life is pretty dark since a long time but even if I want to get some extra joy and warmth from food, keto food is my best choice, usually. I eat well and I feel well even afterwards, staying on track, it’s mentally the best too when I’m down (unless when I feel keto too restrictive at the moment but that’s rare).
I don’t know you but it seems you change your life for the better, good luck with it! If you made your mind, that’s already a big thing, it can fuel us for long, especially when we can eat tasty food. If your options are limited, get creative :wink: Challenges like that can be fun, at least for a while and there is a nice community hear and you can find lots of good recipes, it can’t be that hard, it’s not even your first time, you can do it! 15 pounds or not, you surely can lose some and feel better!

Oh I’ve just read what @Don_Q wrote, that’s right, it’s not even 15 pounds but probably much less! You can do it!


(Pri) #6

Thanks all. I do have access to eggs, cheese and paneer(Indian cheese). I’ll try fasting.


(PSackmann) #7

Remember, this is a long-term WoE. Move back to eating based on eggs if that’s what you can do, and don’t worry where you are by mid-December. Instead, where will you be next year or the year after that? That’s the important question.


#8

I am so sorry you have a rough situation in your personal life. It can create so much sadness and chaos.

My personal way to attack this, I would cut myself a break truly.

I would not try to diet like hell to get off the 15 lbs. as an all or nothing deal in my mind.

You lost so much…you didn’t gain that much back truly! It feels that way, that 15 lbs represents so much sadness and chaos and crazy to you of course. I sure get that! But I wouldn’t make it into something over the top crazy cause truly it is not.

Just slowly work toward losing some of it. Just clean up the eating best you can. Take control back from the binge eating your stress has given you. Try to find ways to control stress and get your feet on more even ground. Being more grounded will start you back on a nice easier keel to tackle those 15 and not gain more.

I am so sorry you are going thru all of this. It is never easy when the fur flies in our lives. Just take care of yourself and don’t put super stress on yourself about losing that 15 in a few weeks. Just slowly get your mind back on board with your old way of eating, do the best one can and you will drop some of that gained weight and you will start to feel better and more.

Wish you nothing but the best. No matter what is done to us in life and what we must endure, we must put ourselves first in life to stay healthy and grounded. Just take back your control and put some effort into your goals and you will rebound for sure!

(that is just my personal take on how I would get thru some tough times…my thoughts and I hope some of that helped you :))


(Pri) #9

Thank you sooo much for taking time and for your kind and wise words. My life has been rough for long time but still I was doing so great on diet because I was looking forward to my sister’s wedding that is in December and I did it so well I almost lost all my weight. But things got soooo worse I can’t even explain and I just could not think of my diet and suddenly I had to work and things went backwards it’s been 4 months I am on and off and I was still up and down with 5-7 pounds. But now since last one month I feel like I m on sugar diet. Everyday I think I’ll start tomorrow and I binge on food today and tomorrow is never coming I m doing this since 1st of this month. I want to look good on my sister wedding that was my motivation now I don’t even care of looking good, problem is I bought expensive cloths that does not fit well anymore. I am just trying to fit in them. Please give me you best advice. :blush:


#10

I get it, I sure do.

but to make a goal in unreasonable times of crazy only gets one more crazy :slight_smile:

your lot in life will not change ever how you celebrate your sister’s wedding. that day is hers and it try never to make it all about you when in your thoughts you are suffering and ‘try to use’ it as a mojo catalysis won’t probably work (not saying it won’t LOL you are you and you know you here) but why give ‘things’ an ultimatium in your life when your life is so much more up for grabs on emotions fluctioning at warp speed?

The first ones to never give ourselves a darn break ever is ourselves!

You fit in right now where you are at…those clothes you bought before your troubles will still be there…they are not a hold on you. You hit the store or your closet and buy the best darn outfit that fits you so wonderful now.

And I never for any time forget where you came from. We judge ourselves so harshly for what we are not, yet we never ever gives ourselves a true positive claim on where we came from and what we accomplished.

I get it I do…but in the end thru all this if you celebrate YOU…you will give your sisters wedding nothing but the best of you and that is what she deserves.

Now this is personal thought on it all…I truly hope you take it as needed and it if hits home roll with it but if it doesn’t set well then find that ‘forward motion path’ that will always be position and be about you and your happiness.

I wish you nothing but the best!!


(Robert C) #11

Unless you can get some work done on the expensive clothes to loosen them or you can return them and get a larger size, I think you are stuck with some amount of fasting.

Starting regular Keto will likely not get you into too-tight fitting clothes in 3 or 4 weeks.

The good part is that fasting can be used to break the cycle of “I will start tomorrow”.

Start now, it is very obvious if you are fasting - if something goes in your mouth - you are not fasting.

With Keto a day can creep from “doing Keto” to “I will start tomorrow” with just an extra meal or a few snacks - especially in an high emotional state. Trying to eat fat to satiety and count carbs, likely without much progress on your measurements, will be very upsetting and represents lost time between now and mid-December.

Begin with a 72 hour fast - it gets difficult around the end of the second day but then, you will get very good mental clarity. Many decisions become very easy, many problems quickly find solutions. That 3 days will give you a feeling of what you can do in terms of fasting over the next week. Be sure and have the 4 or 5 days just prior to the wedding be fasting days, your face and body will both appear slimmer.

If extended fasts are not possible for you, try only eating every other day - one full day “on” and one full day “off”. The danger here is that progress slows significantly if you overeat on the “on” days - instead you should eat Keto and intentionally restrict (not to satiety as that won’t work fasting alternate days).


(Pri) #12

Thanks :pray: