Iām not an extremist and will admit that many plants are toxic and at the same timeā¦ Many man made farmed animals are toxic.
Nuts have miniscule amounts of phytic acidā¦ Less than 10mg per 100g portion. Nuts cause issues because of cross contamination with grains in packaging/sorting warehouses and contamination with aflatoxins.
Modern day problem.
Itās really easy to see, though. To do a proper study of whether plants have deleterious effects (or any study), you have to be funded. Try going to your local agency and say you want to do research showing plants are bad for you. Good luck.
@anon81060937 I do not know of any evidence whatsoever that āman madeā āfarmed animalsā are toxic.
And as an n=1, eating those āman madeā āfarmed animalsā has done wonders for me. I could spend pages describing all the benefits Iāve had from that, and avoiding to a large degree āhealthyā plants.
@ctviggen I agree with @anon81060937 on this oneā¦ animals tortured in factories. Are in Hell. Cortisol levels very high from stress 
. It breaks my heart. But itās hard to find farmraised meat in this townā¦ but yeahā¦ factorys are AWFUL. So to meā¦ it must surely be a tad toxicā¦ just a tadā¦ I have enough cortisol to kill.an elephantā¦ so yeahā¦ Itās bad.
not that I want an elephant killedā¦they are beautiful smart animalsā¦
Thatās a complaint I have heard from researchers, at any rate.
Think about the logic: we all āknowā that saturated fat kills people, so no experiment involving feeding people saturated fat in place of carbohydrate is permissible, because you cannot knowingly harm the people you study (this is to protect study participants from some of the grave wrongs committed by researchers in the past). The intention of the restriction is good; the problem is how that sort of thing works out in practice. Youād have to have pretty good evidence casting doubt on the original belief, before an ethics board would even discuss permitting such an experiment.
From āThe Beetā so obviously a plant-based biased publication. Tragic people believe this crap.
Sorry for my ignorance, but does your graph mean that the corn tortillas are blocking the zinc from being absorbedā¦?
It definitely seemed so to meā¦ I still havenāt read the whole article but itās an interesting readā¦ And makes me want not reading such things, I donāt change my eating habits anyway, I donāt go back to eating more than a tiny amount of vegetables anyway, I just feel sorry for modern people 
But past times werenāt good either. I feel I live on the wrong planetā¦ (What would 3rd world people say? Or they are busy with surviving and have less of these thoughts?)
@Shinita LETS go to another Planet then.
. We can make it whatever we wantā¦ sorry I couldnāt resist. I start this topic. Then am too lazy to write anything of actual valueā¦
. Oh wellā¦ What the hell do I know about nutrition??? Nothing.
. I never told youā¦ in 2016 I wanted to study nutrition as an online courseā¦HA!!! I missed the first class
ā¦cos I was too dumb to know how to use Skypeā¦ so then thoughtā¦oh well.. Sighā¦i am being sillyā¦ off I goā¦
Pretty amusingā¦
So if, unlike a lab rat, you donāt actually reduce your carbs, then your low-carb diet doesnāt work.
THATās science! [Oy.]
I believe itās Dr. Ken Berry that likes to say that any cheap meat is better than the carbs most people are gonna eat (not an exact quote). But Iām pretty sure Dr. Berry is fond of grass-fed, pasture raised, stuff like that.
I just bought a side of truly pasture raised beef from a friend who raises them. Quality is top. I know how theyāve been raised. No feedlot. No questionable feeds. He likes to say heās āorganicā but doesnāt want the hassles of being ācertifiedā, which I can definitely appreciate cause itās a pain in the butt with the government wanting to then be all up in your business. Iāve been to his farm numerous times. I see how he grows stuff.
Anyway, the meat is not identical to ācheap walmartā. The taste is different. The texture is different. And I believe some of the nutrition content is different. Iām told that the omega 3 and omega 6 ratios are a little different. Iām not saying you canāt be just fine eating the cheapest cuts of whatever meat you can get your hands on. But Iām also not convinced that there is no difference whatsoever.
Sure, buy what you like. Buy what you can afford. Buy what you can get. Animals are really remarkable creatures at converting bad food into good meat. I still think quality inputs do matter in the quality of the meat. Eggs and veggies, too. But those are just my own opinions. You may disagree, and thatās ok. You do you, Iāll do me. 
I wish I had friends like that!
If I have a choice, Iād always choose organic/grass-fed, but if grass-fed wasnāt an option, Iād still want organic, mainly because they canāt use steroids or growth hormones to be certified organic (of course Iām buying from a store, not a farmer friend).
If organic werenāt available, Iād still pick any cut of beef before eating a pizza or loaded potato, no matter their organic quality.
Even humans seem to be able to do that ā¦ for the first 30 years or so.
