I am curious... How to get people to enjoy the high fat aspect of keto/lchf?


#1

Recently I might get my mother interested in keto as I managed to slim down (heh, NSV)(but of course, she is afraid of me slimming down further as it is likely for me to look like a sick man instead, when I was thinking “I thought slimmer is better than fatter? Heh”)

My mother is in prediabetes phase.

She can understand and accept the low-carb part(though she still felt that a little bit of brown rice is okay, which I understand where she is coming from…)

Summary

(I am worse in the sense that I am able to give up rice/noodles, but not really willing to give up the sweet sauce on meats, which I always feel that it makes food wonderful, and the reason why I can give up rice/noodles is just because I like meat more. That’s all.)

Anyway, she then mentioned that the doctor actually did suggest her that she needs to go for “low sweet, low salt, low fat”

I am like “erm…”

Anyway, when I heard the low salt and low fat as well, I am thinking one thing: how to convince people to go? The reason why I can convince myself is because I kinda like fat meat in the first place.(pork belly is the best, I just need to cook)

But others? How?

I have a feeling that my mother has been through the time where pork lard is commonly used, but she also has been through the time where vegetable oil is the best and saturated fat is the enemy. She also goes through the time where low-fat is the best…

So now here comes a problem: I wonder if there is any way to get someone like her to accept the high fat part also?

Also, high salt part.


(CharleyD) #2

Maybe appeal to ancestors :thinking: as in ask how much salt and fat her parents, grandparents used in cooking?


#3

Lol. Heh. Not a bad idea. I can accept this idea.


(Bunny) #4

Cognitive dissonance is too powerful and unfortunately they are left to their own demise, they have to be genuinely interested and educated enough to be interested?

Otherwise your talking to the wall unless the celebrities are doing it? …lol

Individual biological pathologies unique to that person[2][7] and results confuse the issue even more i.e. previous metabolic dietary damage and how you fix it first etc?

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(Bunny) #5

Low-carb and low-fat diets face off in new Stanford study February 20th, 2018: “…Gardner and his team are determined to dig deep into the voluminous trove of data gathered from the study looking for some kind of clear signature that runs through all the participants. Is it microbiome, epigenetic or an undiscovered genetic pattern that explains the variability between all the participants? …” …More

Hmmm? A Mouse!

Published on Feb 19, 2018 Stanford’s Christopher Gardner Tackles the Low-Carb vs. Low-Fat Question: Stanford School of Medicine researcher Christopher Gardner’s recent study on individual predisposition to different kinds of diets yields new insight on the great Low-Carb vs Low-Fat Debate.


#6

if that is considered, then I think everyone has cognitive dissonance already. Heh.


(Bunny) #7

Keeps the sugar cane’rs and and corn growers et al. wallet fat, because fat is bad and sugar[1] is good?

Truly a non-imaginary dystopian nightmare for us but a fascists dream come true!

[1] including grains, startches and processed carbohydrates?


(karen) #8

One thing with my Mom, I think … her role was the one with the wisdom about food, the one who nourished the family. So I think there is an added incentive to hold onto all that “wisdom” she gathered during the 70s and 80s about what constituted healthy food. Is there maybe some way to appeal to her role as the Elder with Wisdom, and get her to bring you her newfound research (that you probably already know, but that’s ok?) I think for some older people it gets very polarizing - everything you say is different from what they’ve been taught, so it’s either cling to the old or admit that they apparently know nothing.

I know for my Mom she’d probably also call it the Selfish American Diet - all you spoiled young people making up this diet where you get to eat all the treat foods and you don’t have to eat the staples like bread and cereal, apples and potatoes. Maybe so, but isn’t it awesome it turns out the things we want to eat are the things we’re actually supposed to be eating?