How to get over a cheat meal/day SOLVED

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(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #1

I know this topic has been done to death, and people have strong views on it, but I have some thoughts that I think some will find useful – especially people new to LCHF.

  1. I was fairly strict for my first 6-12 months. I didn’t touch alcohol for the first few months, for instance. I didn’t have a single carb-fueled cheat night either. And I know there are a lot of people in that headspace. More power to you!
  2. For me, and for many others, given that we understand this is a way of life for the rest of our lives, some planned and unplanned carbfests are par for the course. And even when you’re not “cheating,” the occasional whiskey with a lovely low carb steak dinner at Peter Luger – it happens. And I’ve made my peace with it. I’ll be low carb for the foreseeable future, but I refuse to hate on myself for wanting to carb up a bit occasionally.
  3. I’m 2 years into LCHF (I rarely go full ketogenic but certainly I’ve gone there!) and my cheats, I’d estimate, occur every 2-3 weeks. And I try to save it up: I am more than happy being low carb, but when I decide to hit some carbs, I’m gonna go the full monty.
  4. Now, having said that, a couple of points: first, my cravings for carbs are vastly diminished. If I crave sweets, peanut butter can resolve it, or a keto treat. But secondly, even when I carb binge, I’ve noticed recently that I really don’t go as hard as I used to. I’ve even carb binged on savory stuff in the last few months without even needing to hit up the chocolate.
  5. After a cheat meal/day, I just go right back into LCHF the following day. Often I’ll fast until the following evening.
  6. I’m sharing screenshots below of the insanity that happened today for those who may want to see what an otherwise pretty strict low carb guy (with great biomarkers I might add) occasionally does. I went to the movies and decided, fuck it, I’m gonna do some damage tonight. I was stunned to see the amount of sugar and carbs I ate – and I didn’t even go that hard to be honest. When I used to be a sugar burner, I can’t imagine the amount of sugar and carb I was eating Every. Single. Day. And guess what? Tomorrow, I’ll be right back into my low carb life. I won’t beat myself up over this.
  7. Apart from the reduced cravings, honestly I really notice how shit carbs/sugar make me feel after a binge. Right now I feel kind of, well, fat. Tomorrow it’ll be the same, and I might feel gross. I’ve even noticed that my mood drops for a day or two after I smash the carbs. My stubborn personality seems to require a reminder of this self-flagellation, and then I’m back on track with my LCHF lifestyle the very next day.

In short, TL;DR your cravings will reduce; don’t beat yourself up if you cheat; just keep calm and keto on.

Now here’s my mea culpa from today; I’ve blurred it out so you can click on it if you’re interested. (This is a pretty rare thing; my days are usually sub-35 net carbs, even less usually. And the calorie count has been pretty good of late.) May God have mercy on my fat-adapted soul. But honestly, I know people come here to confess, but I’m not doing that. I didn’t really need this, and could’ve done without it, but sometimes, you know. I’m human.

My point is, shit happens. KCKO guys.


#2

I like this post. I’m realizing more and more that this is something I’m going to be doing for the long term forseeable future. I don’t want to over think things anymore. If everyone just KCKO (whatever that means to you) then any slip up or cheat meal or life happens thing will be insignificant in the long run of your new way of life.
Also, there is value in experience. Nobody on any forum telling you how crappy you are going to feel after a day of indulgence is as valuable as having the experience yourself.
Here’s what I’ve learned from my experiences:

  • I am starting to crave fatty meaty foods instead of carbage. After going to a bbq (which you would think would be safe - but wasn’t) and experiencing too many dishes with too much sugar in all of them (to my new tastes anyway), I just wanted to start the next day and eat my normal keto.
  • I can eat one small candy or chocolate and not have a crazy binge party anymore (I work in a bulk store, we sell lots of candies etc. I have no problem passing it up, but when we are giving out samples etc for the customers or we get a new product, sometimes I want to know what they taste like so I can answer questions).
  • Every time I stray for a meal (haven’t done a whole day) I have found it wasn’t worth it. Even my favorite foods, I don’t get the pleasure I used to from eating them. I also didn’t feel sick or anything too negative (really thirsty?). I think it helped that I always ate normal or fasted for most of the day. I would say most of my “off” days would still be considered low carb, since I never strayed away longer than one meal or treat.
  • My relationship with food is getting better. Food is just food now - not a way to deal with my emotions. This was really hard at first, and I might still struggle if I have another downturn, but as of right now, I’m good.

(Trudy) #3

I like this post. As a perfectionist (not obvious by looking at me :crazy_face:) as soon as I slip up I say “stuff it”, next thing, I’ve gained 40kg and lost 6mths. I see this as an eating plan for the rest of my life and there are going to be times when I go over my carb limit.

I’m so glad I found this forum. I tried low carb a few years ago but was low fat as well, brainwashed by the low fat propaganda. I honestly believe all the carb cravings I have had in the past are due to a lack of fat. Now I find fat tastes sweet.

Off on a tangent, thanks for your post, perfection is not my goal!


(Terence Dean) #4

By Jingos Gabe, there’s only one speed with you mate, full throttle with after burners or off. :rofl:
Well done. 944% carbs that’s got to be a record, I’m hoping to better that one day. KCKO :keto:

Keep us posted on how long it takes you to get back into ketosis, lets see if you can bust that myth.


(Empress of the Unexpected) #5

Heck I’m such a lightweight. I thought yesterday’s 80 grams of carbs was so daring!


(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #6

Nah nah nah. I had some TJ’s pita chips to finish off the night and managed to hit 365 grams of carbs yesterday. LOL.

Then again, it works for me. I very rarely do this, but when I do it, I do it properly. It’s not good for my body, but here’s my reasoning: my body is going to have an insulin spike on a binge. I’m not insulin resistant. So if I’m gonna binge, I might as well do it properly, and then get back to my everyday life of keeping my insulin nice and low and even for weeks on end. I figure that’s much, much better than, say, spreading those 365 grams of carbs over a couple of weeks.

It’s just a hypothesis, but I’m fairly sure I’m right. I’m fasting today, by the way. And as per usual after a carb binge, woke up hungry. Completely predictable carbage!


(Empress of the Unexpected) #7

Yeah, you definitely are the winner. Besides, who in their right mind goes off the rails with corn on the cob, v-8 juice, and cottage cheese? I was not very creative, that’s for sure.


#8

I’d go off the rails for clamato juice . . well a ceaser . . well a virgin caesar. I don’t like alcohol.


#9

I hit the corn on the cob this week too. Twice. It’s summer, after all! Hopefully all the butter helped negate the damage.


(Empress of the Unexpected) #10

Tons of butter. And the corn came from my organic seeds from my backyard.


#11

Ohhhh, nice! I’ve haven’t branched out beyond growing tomatoes but I’d love to try growing corn!


#12

I think we are both lucky we are not insulin resistant, and many people might say “well that’s all good for you”; but my advise would be the same for anyone, IF you slip/cheat/have a terrible accident or so on (not that you should mind you - we are all special snowflakes blah blah blah) then there is nothing else you can do but move on and stay the course. For me, fasting helps, but it’s not so much a reaction of “I was bad and now I must atone by not eating” it’s more of a “let my digestion work itself out and my body get back to normal”.

I cannot believe that I have this mindset now, when old me was a huge “well I ate too many blueberries so I should just go get a dozen donuts and make myself sick” kind of person. Now I just enjoy my berries and move on.


(Empress of the Unexpected) #13

It takes a lot of water. Had squash seeds from my first squash yesterday, too.


(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #14

Oh I don’t fast for atonement. I’m hungry right now but after the demolition job I did yesterday, my body needs to get back into fat adaption, and it’ll get back there more quickly if I fast today. That’s all I’m doing it for, just like you.


#15

Great post and responses! Life does happen and its important to roll with it.

I haven’t had a full on cheat day like that, perhaps one day. Sugar isn’t my thing fortunately, but I sure miss popcorn, baked potatoes, beans/rice, pizza, potato chips and beer.

I am contemplating a cheat meal once in a while with one of these items in moderation so that I don’t feel as though I am missing out. With that said, perhaps an all out cheat day is better than adding something in once in a while because it could become a regular habit.


(Heather ) #16

Haha this made me laugh! I beleive you have become my new favorite Keto buddy! We have same wild side. :sweat_smile:


(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #17

This just happened again last weekend. I felt awful. Then went back to regular eating. Weight completely back to normal by today (Wednesday.) Did zero exercise in between.

Which kind of proves once again that although calories DO matter, and CICO is technically accurate, the fact remains that fat regulation and appetite are primarily hormonal issues.

(I do need a strength session ASAP though! :slight_smile:)


(Christopher) #18

Just out of curiosity… what app do you use to track?


(Gabe “No Dogma, Only Science Please!” ) #19

I used to use Cronometer. Generally I do lazy keto, but I’ve been gaining weight on keto recently, so I’ll probably have to track for a while soon.


#20

Great post. I’ve been really strict for the past 8 months and doing amazing (down almost 80lbs and burning fat / building muscle while doing it). But while I’ll occasionally allow myself around 25-30g carbs worth of popcorn at the movies (and keep the rest of the day low), this weekend I did it TWICE… And this morning I had already eaten not particularly low carb lunch making for my first over 40g day since Thanksgiving haha. So I was a little annoyed with myself and worried but glad other people just get right back to it after days (weekends… Ugh) like this. I have no desire to go back to eating bad and actually like sticking to this lifestyle so I’ll just make sure this week is back to being good.