I fried mozzarella cheddar and Mexican cheese about the size of a large pancake flipped it over, lightly browned it ( it became crunchy like a taco) and then put it on my plate. Then I fried an egg a 1/4 cup of ground cooked beef and a little more cheese melted mixed it up and put it in my cheese pancake AKA taco.
I felt so guilty eating it but for every 9 g of fat the cheese had it had 1 gram of carb.
How much cheese is too much cheese?
I started âKetoâ when it was called Low Carb (a la Atkins) in 1972. Atkins originally advised limiting to 4 oz per day hard cheeses. Personally, I rarely eat cheese, but my situation is different from most here. Also, Iâm in maintenance.
Atkins and Keto are similar in that theyâre both low carb, but they arenât the same thing.
Sorry, but Iâm a veteran of this way of eating and I can tell you they are the same.
Atkins is actually much higher protein than keto and encourages the increasing of carbs over time. There are similarities between keto and Atkins induction phase, but theyâre definitely not the same thing.
From what I understand, the induction phase of Atkins is very much Keto, but not so after that.
Also, Keto predates Atkins.
Arguably itâs been around since the cave man, but itâs definately been around since 1920âs when it was first used to treat epilepsy.
If it fit your macros and you felt good physically after eating it, no worries. And ditch the guiltâlifeâs too short to feel guilty about eating good food.
I would add that to my knowledge Dr. Atkins never actually promoted higher protein, he just didnât limit it. Many people ate more protein because they still were scared of fat. And many people on this forum have slowly increased their carbs to more than 20 net which is pretty much the next levels of Atkins so no they might not be EXACTLY the same, but I donât see much difference except for the clearer direction about most of your fuel should come from fat (rather than ânot carbsâ). Which to me is more evolution of a diet than a completely different one.
4 oz of cheese, hmmm, thatâs 1/4 pound of cheese. Maybe I would do that on occasion, especially with a dish that calls for a large amount of shredded cheese. But in a normal day of eating, I have a lot of other food that Iâd kinda like to eat. I may have a little cheese with it. I like cheese. But after a day or two of a whole lot of it, Iâm not so interested anymore.
To each their own.
Cheese that retains some lactose will have some carbs. I think hard / aged cheeses âuse upâ their lactose. So yeah, processed cheese is an absolute crapshoot (emphasis on crap), but some natural soft cheeses do have some carbs as well.
My mother who has diabetes and in her late 60âs is seeing Dr. Eric Westman in Durham, NC to treat with Ketogenic diet - and he says up to 4oz per day is fine unless you have a dairy intolerance. You shouldnât target 4oz, but âup toâ. It also needs to be low carb cheese. It doesnât need to be grass fed - but thatâs preferrable if you can get it and want to pay the premium. And if you can get grass fed from raw milk thatâs even better.
Bries (baking can make dessert like concoction), blue cheeses, cheddars, hard Italians like parmesan and fontina and romano, etc, gruyere, goat. Iâm sure there are more if you Google âlowest carb cheesesâ.
Also you should buy cheese in brick form and not pre shredded because they have to add caking agents to keep the cheese from sticking to itself.
Good luck!