How do you Restaurant-Keto?

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(Hillary ) #61

I take in pork rinds to eat with my salsa and cheese dip

(Cailyn Mc Cauley) #62

Dierk’s Parkside - Santa Rosa CA
The daily special was ground beef tortilla with eggs, beans, salsa, cheese and sour cream.

I skipped the tortillas & beans…

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(Full Metal KETO AF) #63

I cooked Chinese food for most of my life as a profession. The whole MSG myth stems from an racist article written by a New York doctor about “Chinese Restaurant Syndrome” for the NYT in the 1960’s. No research, no evidence other than anecdotal stuff about a couple of friends who complained of headaches after eating in Chinese restaurants.

In my opinion it’s right up there with the myths surrounding low fat being healthy (our beloved Ancel Keys), and salt, sodium nitrate and saturated fats being harmful. Glutamates are naturally occurring compounds found in large quantities in mushrooms, tomatoes, shellfish and seafoods, seaweed, many vegetables,fresh pork and poultry and other meats and dairy products like milk and cheese. There’s more MSG used in the industrial food industry than you could ever get eating Chinese or Japanese food. And Japanese food commonly uses more MSG than Chinese food either naturally occurring or added in the form of a salt. Campbell’s Soup, Doritos, and just about anything not sweet that’s a processed food may contain it. You have all been eating tons of MSG for years. The real problem with Chinese restaurant food is corn starch, white flour, and sugar in almost everything sometimes in small amounts and sometimes in ridiculous amounts.

Here’s a list of SOME of the names that labels use to hide the dreaded “MSG” word from you.

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While there is such a thing as being sensitive to msg it’s not common, otherwise everyone shopping in regular grocery stores eating a SAD would be having headaches every time they pigged out on a whole bag of Sour Cream and Green Onion Potato Chips. :wink:

(Cailyn Mc Cauley) #64

Wow! I am friends with quite a few successful chefs. None have ever given me an education this concise and comprehensive.

I recognize a lot of the ingredient names you listed. My go-to favorite junk food was Sour Cream and Onion chips, even though my fingers would swell and itch—whille still being consumed!

I cooked Chinese food at home in the 80’s (remember the red electric wok?) and I never added a lot of “salt” but used the soy sauce as the salt seasoning. Again, I’d have a reaction to the soy sauce. Swelling and itching.

Same when dining at Chinese restaurants that used heavier sauces —were those corn starch based on you think?

Many of our Asian food restaurants that I favor now don’t have heavy or oily sauces —they tend to be very light, Protein and veg dishes not fried (like the sweet and sour dishes,)

Thank you very much!

(Full Metal KETO AF) #65

@Cailynq Well I would say that you certainly have some kind of food sensitivity or allergy going on. Hard to say what it is exactly. Soy definitely contains some msg. Italian food probably contains more glutamates than Asian food does with the mushrooms, tomatoes, pasta and cheeses. Wheat also contains glutamate compounds (from gluten of course).

And yes the heavy sauces that you mentioned are done with corn starch along with marinading meats, coating them for crispy deep fried stuff, and even dishes that don’t taste blatantly sweet almost always using sugar in the balancing of salt or soy. Egg drop soup will have corn starch and sugar for instance. And probably msg. Salt, sugar and msg are a common seasoning in Cantonese food that looks light in color with no soy.

Also you must be aware that Chinese and most all restaurants use cottonseed oil, canola oil, and soybean oil. Some use lard or duck fat in certain dishes but mostly seed oil, which as keto people we know is super bad for your body. I try to eat as little as I can in restaurants because I spent most of my life cooking and eating the food resulting in most of my health problems. Atherosclerosis, kidney disease, leg amputation all leading to pre diabetes after a kidney transplant. When you’re eating at a restaurant you’re rolling the dice on more than carb amounts, it’s your general health that’s at stake if you eat out often. Just my experienced opinion though, feel free to gamble, damn it snake eyes again, you loose. :game_die::game_die::confused:

(Bob M) #66

Was listening to the latest Keto Answers podcast, and he said you could get an entire cup of oil in one meal (from Thai? Or other restaurant?). I find that difficult to believe, but that’s what he said.

#67

Thank you for taking the time to write this out! I saw a “funny” video with people who insisted they were sensitive to MSG being given US snack foods and, weirdly, they had no adverse reactions at all! -_-

(Full Metal KETO AF) #68

@misshannah Borderline raving but it’s one of my biggest pet peeves! :cowboy_hat_face:

(Ben ) #69

My daughter works at a restaurant in Seattle. The chef is into keto and here is his menue. https://www.copineseattle.com/menu

(Jay Patten) #70

Steak, asparagus (or broccoli or spinach) and maybe a garden salad with oil and vinegar is my go-to restaurant meal. Or a chef’s salad sans onion, croutons, etc.