High ketones after low blood sugar?

(Briton) #1

Anyone ever experience high ketones in the morning after a low at night? If so any recommendations on how to proceed? My ketones were very high. Tested with pee strip.

(Ethan) #2

Pee strips are not accurate. You could have been dehydrated from the night without water.

(Michael ) #3

Hydration levels do seem to impact the strips. I tend to have higher levels when dehydrated.

But unless levels were dangerously high and you’re diabetic, i don’t see the problem.

(Briton) #4

Never happens before. It was dark reddish purple. I am type 2 diabetic. I drank Powerade Zero during and after my workout.

(Ethan) #5

Weird. Powerade Zero contains acesulfame potassium, which is highly insulinogenic.

(Missy) #6

Being that you are a type 2 diabetic, a ketone/glucose blood monitor would be the way to go since pee strips are inaccurate.

(Briton) #7

I did 5x5 StrongLifts and Tabata bike for 8 cycles = 4 mins of HIIT.

(Briton) #8

Recommendations for glucose/ketone meter?

(Ethan) #9

Keto mojo is the most cost effective

(Sarah ) #10

If your cells are hungry but you body has no carbs to burn, ie low blood sugar, it will start to burn fat… so your ketone production should increase. This is not the same as diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA)… in that case, the cells are hungry and your body has carbs to burn (blood sugar is increasing)… but because of low insulin levels (type 1 diabetes) or very high insulin resistance (severe type 2 diabetes) , the cells keep screaming for food, the body keeps trying to pump out more sugar and more ketones… anything to soothe the screaming cells. the end result is very very high blood sugar and very very high levels of ketones, and this causes some really weird shifts in your blood chemistry… and thats what starts the cascade of events called DKA, which is a serious and possibly fatal condition.

Pee strips are useful for people who maintain a carb dominant diet, because they show ketones when normally none should exist, so they serve as a flag that something may be wrong. Theyre not very accurate, but thats not the point, the main issue is just yes or no, present or not present. But for a person who is already is ketosis (not ketoacidosis) they arent very useful. Note most people in ketosis maintain ketone levels under 5 at most (if you were testing your blood in a lab), if they climb above 8 it starts to look like something isnt working right, but people in DKA have levels in the teens or twenties.

(Briton) #11

So what does this mean I should do? KCKO?

(Ethan) #12

Exactly.

Decision Tree:

Able to produce insulin->KCKO

Unable to produce insulin->seek supervision

(Sarah ) #13

what ethan siad, but if your sugars are going low, there has to be a reason… your body is usually incredibly good at keeping your blood sugar level in range… if it is failing it might be because you are taking meds that lower yorur blood sugar? You might need to adjust your meds. but you dont need to change your diet