Help: Planning for my blood test on 15th

(PJ) #1

OK you guys, I’m hoping some monsterbrain remembers what I cannot right now. There is a video out there on youtube somewhere, I think from some lowcarb/keto/primal/whatever conference, where a man talks about how your eating the 3-4 days before your blood is tested, can have a dramatic effect on how the numbers come out (particularly the cholesterol/triglycerides I think it was). But I can’t remember who it was, or anything else, to try and FIND it.

I was on a fast last Feb when I went to the doc. I take serrapeptase when fasting (it’s like adding exogenous autophagy). They surprised me with a blood test when they realized I was already fasting. The protein in my blood (which is expected with the serra supplement) freaked them out about my kidneys, which IMO are fine.

I am supposed to walk in and do a blood test any time between now and … prior to about the 19th, as I have a cardiology appointment the 22nd. (My FIRST cardiology appointment since July 1, 2016, when I had open heart surgery. Never mind why, but I’ve had zero follow-up.) (That was for an undiagnosed birth defect, not a health-wrecked-by-food issue. Aside from still being huge – that’s gradually reducing – my health, and immune system, are actually quite good.)

I have to take diuretics (for life, my bovine heart valve leaks a bit. Nothing like my own did!). So I am constantly juggling mineral levels and so on. That tends to show up in tests if I don’t carefully plan for them.

I want this blood test to not throw any artifacts into the mix that freak out the doc. And I’d like it to test as well as possible.

If any of you remember that topic, person, video, whatever I would need to know so that I can arrange my eating properly timed around the planned test, I’d sure appreciate a reference to it.

PJ

(Allie) #2

Feldman protocol?

It does nothing to change the actual numbers, just makes them look prettier to doctors temporarily. Can’t see the point myself.

(Laurie) #3

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but … Why not eat what you normally eat, so the test will reflect your normal state?

(Carnivore for the win) #4

My total cholesterol went up on this woe, but at the same time my triglycerides went way down and HDL went way up.

If they are a good doctor, and really concerned about your heart health, they should order a CAC test instead of instantly pushing statins or dietary intervention due to elevated LDL.

As @islandlight says above, keep eating the way you are, so get a true representation of your health improvements from test to test.

I love looking back at my old blood tests, and comparing them to the new ones, after I started this woe. It’s like watching someone age in reverse.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #5

@RightNOW As @Shortstuff posted, the Feldman protocol is what you are looking for. Good luck!

Moreover, as @Elliot-W remarks, LDL is largely irrelevant to cardiovascular risk. As long as your ratio of triglycerides is under 2.0 or 0.9 (depending on which units the measurements come in), your cardiovascular risk is minimal, and an NMR analysis of your LDL is virtually guaranteed to show the healthy Pattern A.

The most accurate indicator of cardiovascular risk is a CAC (coronary arterial calcium) scan, which measures damage from atherosclerosis. A stable or declining score, or a score of 0, indicates minimal risk over the next five or ten years, regardless of what your LDL level may be.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #6

Because your LDL will be very high and your doc will get obsessed by that irrelevant fact and maybe not see other more important things. If “you’ve got astronomical LDL, nothing else matters until you get that down into the ‘normal’ range again”, as he writes out your prescription for statins.

Dave Feldman has demonstrated many times that you can determine/change your LDL numbers on any blood test by what you eat or don’t eat for the preceding 3 days. In fact, he demonstrates this at pretty much all the events he attends and invites other attendees to participate in the routine. He does this to prove that something you change radically in three days of selective eating can’t be very relevant to long-term overall health.

(Bob M) #7

If you want your LDL down, the highest decrease in LDL achieved by Dave Feldman was via his “white bread and processed meat” diet.

(Michael - When reality fails to meet expectations, the problem is not reality.) #8
(PJ) #9

Thanks to all of you guys, very much.
Here’s a PDF of Dave where he summarized things, that I found yesterday.
cholesterolcode.com-Cholesterol Drop Protocol Feldman Protocol.pdf (170.0 KB)

If I had my own doctor, whom I trusted to have a clue about these things, it would be different. I am using a clinic doctor for the moment and none of them do, it is hard line to the mainstream. I’m going to a cardiologist for the first time – they insist, solely because I previously had heart surgery and have not seen one. I am distressed enough that X-Rays and so on are going to be assaulting my heart with no critical need for them. And usually my blood tests are good enough there is no concern anyway. But because this is a clinic, if the cardio should decide I need statins, which I will not take, with about as much vehemence as I have about giving up my gun lol, it could make it so they wouldn’t see me again. I can’t get a prescription for the diuretics I must take for life after heart surgery if I don’t have a doctor to give it to me and I cannot afford one, hence the clinic. So you see where I am with this. I just need to make absolutely certain there is no likely reading that IN REALITY does not mean anything bad but FOR THE MAINSTREAM MISEDUCATED MEDICAL will seem like I am suffering from a lack of medication.

PJ

(Jane) #10

Don’t fill the prescription and don’t tell the doc.

But try the protocol also in case it works. Then you can avoid the situation altogether.