Going out for a drink


(Bulldog Fitness) #1

I know what drinks have what carbs in ect. but I was just wondering if there is a magic number that past that point when i will drop out of ketosis, Ive never done cheat days so if i do go over do i risk keto flu all over agin?

Little help please.


(Kimberley Reef) #2

My understanding is that everyone is different and there is no hard, fast rule. My husband can get away with a lot more carb consumption than I can. I drop out of keto if I eat a few extra bites of broccoli…my husband can get away with an occasional beer. If your super focused on staying in ketosis, you just have to conduct your own experiments. I’ve been doing this for a year now and I can tell you that coming in and out of ketosis becomes much more fluid…no keto flu symptoms. There are some articles out there about how our bodies really do get good at switching from burning fat to burning glucose and then back again to burning fat.

Personally, I have sadly discovered that alcohol, in any form, stalls my weight loss and has a blood sugar boomerang effect. I am diabetic and check my blood glucose several times a day. My blood glucose will drop during the time that my liver is processing alcohol but then it spikes up really high a few hours later and will stay high for the next 48 hours.

It’s been difficult to negotiate my social life as well as adult family life when not drinking alcohol. We live in a beach town where everyone seems to be in “party mode” at all times. My husband and I are semi-retired and this adds to the attitude among friends and adult family members that every hour is cocktail hour. :frowning:


(KCKO, KCFO 🥥) #3

When drinking your body processes the alcohol first. It varies from person to person how many carbs you can drink before you drop out of ketosis. The important part is how quickly can you get back in, long time fat adapted? Pretty quickly. Still a carb burner, might take a long time to get back. Somewhere in between? Who knows, you have to try it to find out.

I am a wine drinker, I am a very cheap drunk these days, two glasses of wine, I’m done. I can handle up to 50 g carbs per day, usually under but I stay in ketosis up to that amount according to my breathalyzer.


(Daryl G Jackson ) #4

Hard alcohol won’t take you out of ketosis but ones liver will stop producing ketones until alcohol is dealt with. Just hard stuff, no liqueurs or flavored stuff, it could have added carbs, even spiced rum should be avoided. Straight tequila, whiskey, rum, bourbon, scotch and vodka are very low to zero carb. Zero carb or low carb things can be added to make ones choice more palatable. Listen to the 2ketodudes ALCOHOL podcasts.


#5

Long answer:
While deranged metabolisms may do it less efficiently, our bodies are designed to go seamlessly into and out of ketosis as needed. This fluctuation does not effect the underlying physiological adaptations that define “fat adapted”. Some people intentionally cycle in and out of ketosis on a regular basis.

Short answer:
No, you will not go through keto flu after a night of inebriation. You may however, have a hangover.


(John) #6

I cut way back on drinking but I still enjoy a glass of whiskey sipped slowly every once in a while. I limit it to about a 3-oz pour, which I measure, and no more often than once every couple of weeks.

It does not seem to affect my urine ketone measurements at all. I don’t have any other negative side effects, and it does not affect me more or less strongly than before.

I have no idea what the results would be from drinking more than that would be, nor do I plan to find out.


(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #7

I quit sugar because of the risk of damage it poses to the liver, and it’s the same risk that alcohol poses. Ethanol and fructose (and table sugar, sucrose, is half fructose) are both highly pleasurable, and are both metabolized only in the liver, and by the same metabolic pathway. Unfortunately, they are both also long-term toxins, causing hepatic insulin resistance, fatty liver disease, steatohepatitis, cirrhosis, and even death, if the progression is unchecked. The only real difference between them is that alcohol causes short-term damage as well, and fructose does not.

For me, it would not make sense to quit sugar and then do the same damage to my liver with alcohol instead. Of course I am vulnerable to the addictive effects of both substances, which is yet another reason to avoid them. Still, quite apart from their addictive qualities, their propensity to do damage seems like a compelling reason to avoid them. Fortunately, the effects of bacon appear to be completely benign! :bacon::bacon:


(Bulldog Fitness) #8

I’m ashamed to say Saturday night soon devolved in to anarchy and I was drinking anything and everything!

Time to get back on the wagon :frowning:


(Frank) #9

Hey me too!