Glucose Went Down?

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #1

I know that glucose normally goes up after eating (or stays similar, depending on what was consumed).
But here are my numbers from having 1 cup of heavy cream w/ 1 scoop of MCT powder and 1 scoop of keto protein powder. I know that for the most part these readings are within an acceptable margin of error, and are thus almost the “same”.

So, the questions are: “What does it mean if my glucose goes down after eating? Is this good, bad, or what?”

Glucose Time
72 T0
72 T12
69 T28
72 T30
64 T43
63 T58
62 T80
#2

I would think that the downward trend is fairly normal given the time frame. With that amount of fat you would expect the rise (if there is one) to take a long time - the dip might just be the way you were drifting prior to eating.

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #3

That’s kinda what I was thinking. I just wish I knew exactly how long it would take for the uptick (if it occurs). I had been expecting a longer time in between the “MCT Cream” and when I was going to eat next. RIght now its about 2 hours (glucose is up to 69, but again, within margin of error). My meter (FreeStyle Libre) shows a small increase from the T80 mark.

#4

You’re probably looking at 3 to 4 hours at least & even then (given how low your numbers are & the meal composition) any rise might just be from glucagon.

(You've tried everything else; why not try bacon?) #5

Well, if your glucose had dropped, it would have meant that insulin was driving it out of your bloodstream. Since that would have meant a rise in insulin, it’s not what you would want to happen.

However, since your glucose level essentially did not change over the time of measurment, what this experience of yours illustrates is that (a) fat has no effect on insulin secretion, and (b) in the context of a low carbohydrate intake, eating protein leaves the insulin/glucagon ratio unchanged.

BTW, the reason your glucose didn’t rise is that you were eating protein and fat, not carbohydrate.

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #6

Thanks :slight_smile: It was about 10g of protein in the protein powder. I didn’t expect much change, but was curious. I’m also trying to figure out if its something worth continuing to drink (as I have it most nights).

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #7

Recent readings.

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The 9:10 reading was just about 10min shy of the 3hr mark.

(Bunny) #8

Your glucose goes down because insulin came in to clean up the left over glucose, which means your insulin is doing what it is supposed to do?

If your not feeling ill or symptomatic (reactive hypoglycemia), then your probably ok?

If your a sugar burner that may not be such a good thing[1][2]?

Dr. Berg always recommends snacking on a little bit of protein (but not too much) if feeling hypoglycemic (do you feel ill at all? e.g. faint, dizziness, headaches, migraines, and others) rather than eating a tube of glucose or sugar!

References:

[1] “…Reactive hypoglycemia is the general term for having a hypo after eating, which is when blood glucose levels become dangerously low following a meal. Also known as postprandial hypoglycemia, drops in blood glucose are usually recurrent and occur within four hours after eating. …” …More

Note: “dangerously low” what may be dangerously low for one person may not be dangerous for the other person and the differences between a person on a ketogenic diet and a person who is not?

[2] Reactive hypoglycemia: What can I do?

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #9

Didn’t feel bad, and I’m not a sugar burner. Just trying to tweak things, and experiment a bit.

ETA:. I’ll update in the morning with more numbers. It will include after supper reactions

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #10

Here’s a look at what happened, including with supper later… Figuring that supper had about 4g of carbs
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(mole person) #11

My guess would be insulin from the protein and dairy pushing glucose into cells.

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #12

I’ll likely try again, but without the protein powder. :slight_smile:

#13

Did the protein powder have any “keto-friendly” sweetener in it?

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #14

Probably. But so did the MCT powder.

#15

I think a fellow member here figured out that a dip in blood glucose was caused by the rise in insulin lowering it (due to reactions from erythritol). I will see if I can find his posts, he did lots of experiments on sweetener, but I can’t recall his username :face_with_monocle:

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #16

Ok. No rush. I usually don’t drink it by itself, but as part of a meal.

#17

Ok this is awful lol, I have no idea how to link another thread, but pic below is part of the members experiment…

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(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #18

I don’t have a chart yet for drinking the MCT cream last night, but it seems to have had a minimal effect. Although I wonder if sleeping confounded things.

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(mole person) #19

Interesting!

(Cancer Fighting Ketovore :)) #20

I suppose this means more experiments in the interest of science! :smiley: