Now I start to wonder if anyone lived on meat alone… Raw meat has pretty much water, after all… And some people ate lots of it…
It’s probably not enough normally but maybe in extreme circumstances…? A bit of blood is fine but too much is allegedly toxic… Well okay everything in toxic, it’s all about the amounts…
It’s individual. Meat is my top satiating item (but it depends which… I can overeat fat using meat easily though it’s probably very occasionally), egg is my second. So they aren’t good for me to eat at a calorie surplus (though I have skills. but I naturally eat less using meat unless it’s fatty and tempting as fat doesn’t satiate me well). But it’s me, other people can eat a ton of it and even in my case, the kind of the meat matters a lot.
Nope, you don’t need any plant on keto if that works for you. But vegs pretty much guarantee I won’t lose any fat so they may help if you don’t get satiated by them but eat way more (not particularly satiating) fat along with them as I did.
If you want to eat more than naturally comes, forget about waiting for hunger, it easily may work against you. Unless if you eat more if you only do it when hungry or something, I can imagine that is the case.
Individual. 300+ g is too much for me from both I imagine. (Too easy to eat that much accidentally but one day never was a problem.)
3.3g/kg for LBM for protein is a limit I’ve read (from @PaulL. I think that’s the number but definitely very close and I am pretty sure about it).
It seems it’s pretty hard to overeat protein (meaning we eat a burdensome amount, not just over our needs) especially if one doesn’t fear fat. My macros are all over the place but my protein likes to stay in its bracket, I feel urge to eat more when it’s lowish and stop when it’s quite high (if I am still hungry, I desire very fatty food) and it seems most people has at least the latter thing. So it’s unlikely you will overeat protein but some people can do it. It’s noticeable but forgot the actual symptoms, I never had that as most people probably never meet it.
Cheese may help, it definitely works against many people’s fat-loss… Dairy can be unhealthy too but if you handle it well, it may be your ally. But satiation is so extremely individual that it’s not sure at all.
Some people eat pretty much cheese on the forum, never heard about calcium problems but I don’t actually know. Don’t live on cheese but a pretty good amount of your calories may come from it without problem as far as I know.
I favor eggs as they are hard to get bored of if one is me and eggs and meat are just a perfect combo
Eggs can be eaten with lots of fat, I don’t like too much (10g lard is enough to fry 3-5) but I can add some fatty meat or sour cream, it adds calories quickly so I don’t need to eat 20 eggs or something on low-meat days, that would be too much even for me. Meat, eggs, little dairy, playing with added fat, fat content of meat… There are many options, I can eat modestly and at a significant surplus too if I am determined so don’t mess it up. But I know people who find almost everything satiating to almost the same extent, they play with timing, especially the number of meals matter. But they matter a lot to me as well. It would be easy to add another meal and it would raise my calories. But the perfectly satiating meat would keep my intake around/below maintenance. Unless I use enough carbs to interfere.
I don’t know if any of these could help, I never wanted to gain fat, I just did (extremely slowly through overeating on HCHF. I am physically unable to gain more than a little per year, if you are like that, well that’s not easy, to put it lightly. I definitely don’t gain a noticeable amount even now if I just start to eat carbs all day despite my overeating. my weight never seemed to care about my carb intake alone so it’s not so easy) and we are all different but maybe experimenting with the mentioned possibly important factors will have some effect…?