You found you 
You don’t need to explain, comment, judge or more. You are peaceful. You found it and that is thrilling!!! I loved your post!
Friendless in the New Year lol
Fangs
#21
ctviggen
(Bob M)
#23
I think this is true in my case. I have a niece (on my wife’s side) who is trained in baking. I’m looking into making a high saturated fat croissant for my kids, using potentially cocoa (cocao?) butter. So, I asked her about it. I told her that I had been experimenting with eating cocoa butter and experienced such a lack of hunger that I ate one meal at lunch and did not eat again. I meant for this just to be an aside, as to why I’m trying to make a high saturated fat croissant.
She then told me that I shouldn’t fast like that because my fat cells would then resist losing weight, and would be primed for me to gain weight. Or at least this was what people said on the board she went to.
The curmudgeon in me couldn’t take it. I’m at my lowest weight in 30+ years, and it’s in large part to intermittent and long term fasting. So, I told her I thought this was wrong, as I’ve done 15+ 4.5+ day fasts and too many shorter fasts to count.
Unfortunately, she then said that one of the reasons she doesn’t eat like that is because she has food issues. She can’t fast, as she freaks out about food if she does.
Then, I felt bad.
But I have a hard time holding back when someone says what I know to be wrong in my personal experience.
It’d be like if you came up to me and told me that meat or animal fat caused obesity. If that’s the case, then why have I lost about 60 pounds and gained muscle while eating primarily meat and its fat?
michaelwolfnyc
(Michael Wolf)
#24
Interesting thread.
First, of course people have issues with the way we eat, because they’ve been taught by experts that it’s wrong. If somebody told me that the element Argon didn’t exist and knowing this were the key to life, I’d think they’re crazy. I certainly wouldn’t bother researching their claim. Well that’s what it’s like for others when we tell them saturated fat is healthful and pasta isn’t. They’re not stupid, but they’re not going to be convinced by you telling them the opposite of what everybody knows.
Second, of course everybody knows that sugar is bad for you, but telling them not to eat it isn’t likely to work. They already knew not to eat it. But life isn’t worth living without sugar, right? They know that too. Maybe you can teach them about addiction, that people who quit smoking hate life for a few weeks and then love as much as ever, and it’ll be the same for sugar. Maybe you can teach them that, but probably you can’t. Hey, from the time I decided to get my sugar consumption under control to when I finally did was, well, a long time.
With all the hurdles there are, it’s no wonder most of us cannot convince our friends and loved ones. The wonder is that WE found it and are managing to do it. I’m grateful and I’m lucky and I know it. If somebody loves me enough to try to cure me of my supposed insanity, I’m glad to be loved. However, I’ll put up a fierce and scientific battle, and they’ll lose! And I’ll gently persist in persuading people one at a time. It’s a long game: it takes years. I’ve helped a few people change their diets, and one has even gone full keto (with great results). The others are going ever lower carb, but at their own pace. But some others who need to change in order to avoid catastrophe will never change, not because they’re stupid, but for all the reasons mentioned above. It’s sad, but some people will be beyond our reach.
If any comes up with way to be consistently persuasive though, let the forums know!
gingersmommy
(Marianne)
#27
Yes; I’ve gotten there, too. I don’t care what people think about my WOE (that it’s gluttonous, irresponsible, gross, not sustainable, etc.). I listen to my doctors comments objectively and weight it based on what I know and have learned. If I disagree, I just proceed as I see fit.
I’m learning to let go of this, too. Most members of my family and friends have a weight/obesity issue. I feel so bad for them, however, I have let it go. They know from previous conversations and observing how I eat what I am doing. I am fine with just being an example and planting a seed by how I’m living. That is enough now.
london2z
(John Linnon)
#28
@Carolyn: I guess I don’t get the context you are speaking from. But it seems to me that it’s anything but superficial for those who choose to take control of their lives, by changing their eating habits to a healthier diet, and extend their lives in a healthy way.
David_jones
(David Jones)
#29
I’m a recovering junkie and I miss my old friends. I know the struggle they have and I continue to battle. I’m not sure if its I’m scared of them or the reverse. I choose to isolate so as to not let others attempts or setbacks effect me.
I have been clean for 2 years. Sometimes however it would be so easy to just go ahead and eat a donut with them. I know that I cant as I have relapsed before and remember well.
Regina
(Empress of the Unexpected)
#30
The people I’m close to are fine with my eating this way. A few even inquire about it, then wander away and have a piece of toast. I know a person on metformin whose doctor has told him it’s okay to have one serving of fries or ice cream, but not two. Honestly. I dont talk about it unless asked, but I would love to have each and every person try it for 3 months, just to prove it to themselves. That would be so cool. But it’s never gonna happen…
rettakat
(Retta Stephenson)
#32
Twelve years low carb and then Keto. Down 206 pounds as of a couple of days ago, with about 55 to go to reach my goal.
Yet I STILL HAVE NO CREDIBILITY with my family members, who are Diabetics. Knees shot (like mine). In pain. On insulin. Kidneys in and out of crisis, etc etc.
It can be frustrating, and it can be heartbreaking. In the beginning, I used to make all those wonderful low carb dinners and invite them over to “convince” them it could be enjoyable and healthy. They would smile and nod and thank me for the dinner. And go home and eat what they wanted, and match the insulin to the carbs. sigh….
But I think I’ve finally truly let go. I love them. I am here for them. But I never push now. I don’t even bring it up. I just remember how so very long it took me to “get it”. We each have our own time. Or… not. Our choice.
Hugs to you all, and thank you for being here.I don’t have anyone to really share with. This forum is always a nice place to visit. A breath of fresh air… and a whiff of bacon. ha ha ha ha 
collaroygal
(KCKO, KCFO 🥥)
#34
Retta you sound like a walking billboard for the Low Carb way of life. Congrats on all those pounds gone.
We can share and lead by example but it boils down to not everyone is ready to change, a pill or shot is just easier to deal with for them. I know it hurts to see them hurting themselves, but you have done all you can, it is up to them now. Glad you have let go. It took me over 30 years of doing other diets. So glad I finally got it. And you found your way as well.