Forward for February/ March: Carnivore Chat 2025

(KM) #61

I’m not strictly carnivore, but I know what you’re saying. The winter has been rough and I have definitely added some processed, non keto “treats” that I now look forward to consuming on a daily basis. So far I haven’t compromised the results I achieved from following a clean keto diet, but it’s only a matter of time. I could use a little incentive, myself.

#62

7 year ketoversiary today for joining the forum. Started posting in March 2018. I like the steak with the candle in it next to the log in.

Steak dinner last night. I had carved up the bulk meat from the butcher and the first two flash fried steaks are the end pieces. 10 x 300g scotch fillet steak meal doses packed into the freezer.

It’s interesting to see and read about the worldwide egg crisis. It’s terrible to find a cheap nutritious fat protein has become scarce or too expensive. I’m still eating 4 eggs per day as local producers are yet to be stripped of stock by interstate purchasers. Such a great source of choline, which is a biochemical foundation for health.

In a good spell with a steady heart beat. Will look more into histamines as suggested by @beannoise. But also, I think Edith, @VirginiaEdie, has some good research on histamines as well.

#63

& @Shinita

As @Fangs used to say, “Stay on Plan”. It was simple, direct, and easy to repeat when laying down for a body scan meditation as a mantra to implant in the subconscious.

I also use, “I sleep. I heal”. That one works as a bonus, if I ever get a craving.

(Bean) #64

I had a lot of “how to” specifics on the other thread, but I felt it was overkill. I highly recommend the Intolerances app by Balza, though. It clears through most of the conflicting content information on oxalates, histamines, salicylates, and more.

(Bean) #65

I made a connection this morning. I don’t tolerate citric acid. I’m not sure of all the implications, but a lot of puzzle pieces just locked into place, like my on again off again problem with dairy and cheeses.

#66

I take magnesium citrate to ward off calcium oxalate kidney stone formation.

It would be interesting to know how you discovered it. From fruit eating? Or using peel oils for cleaning? Squeeze of lemon on fish? Or compounded in a supplement?

Too much magnesium citrate is a powerful laxative. A clear signal when one reaches ‘gut maximum’.

(Bean) #67

I had the “calm” magnesium powder that is magnesium carbonate with citric acid. I think (hope) it’s just the synthetic kind, although I have had trouble with fruit for a while. My joints flare and I itch all over my legs.

I also had a few bites of guacamole last weekend and my reaction was way beyond the histamine-avocado reaction I expected. Checked the label, and it used citric acid along with the lime juice.

If this is my “thing”, it explains a lot of why sometimes I react to something and sometimes I don’t. My goal at the moment is to avoid it as an additive, let my system settle down, and then do some reintroductions.

In the US, it is used in meat processing. (And vegetable washes, and in 3/4 of the topicals in the drug store). It makes sense why the local air chilled poultry doesn’t bother me as much as the stuff that gets dunked in an ice water “solution”. I’ve gradually moved to Australian lamb and local very-small-processor freezer beef. I thought it was a histamine thing, but these are also the least likely to have the citric acid, as well.

Fingers crossed. I need to remain keto for multiple health reasons, but to be able to increase my eating options a bit would be very welcome. If it was just histamine, DAO and low histamine eating should have resolved it by now.

(Bean) #68

Hey all,
Last day of March! How did that happen?

One last check in here before we launch into April? Do you want to continue the conversation in April?

(Edith) #69

Yes, it was severe histamine trouble that ended my carnivore experiment. Vitamin C is needed for us to build the enzyme, diamine oxidase, that helps us break down histamine. I don’t remember the time scale now, but it was a relatively short period of time after adding vitamin C and vitamin C containing foods back into my diet that the histamine trouble started to go away.

#70

I definitely do! And I am ready to come back close to carnivore. My last days already were much better, meat satiates me so well :slight_smile: I am not into cheese right now and we don’t have many eggs so it’s tricky but today I had some very lean pork loin (as I ate up the fatty parts in the weekend… it was so good! :slight_smile: ), chicken liver and fish so there was variety. Oh and knackwurst. Never had it before but it was nice.
And tomorrow should be simple, I fry pork chuck, my favorite. So I can base a meal on it unlike on some lean pork or chicken.

(Bean) #71

Here we go.

Let’s wrap up March and move to April.