Feedback Anyone? Juvenescence Metabolic Switch Fuel Powder - C6 Ketone Di-Ester

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#1

Anyone have some insights to C6 Ketone Di-Ester?
Been looking at some products that could help in goals for weight loss and staying in Ketosis. I have been reading on everything from Salts to other supplements. This is the only one so far I have seen that helps you body make more Ketones rather than just dumping Ketones into your system. So before you go down the road of “Just eat correctly and stick to low carbs” or anything else that has been said a million times on the boards here please note I am. I am eating real foods and not garbage products and I don’t have cheat days. I do struggle with Calorie intake some weeks and feel like my best gains are when I am eating enough so my body doesn’t think I am starving it and then do a fast or at least IF. I was interested in learning from anyone who has used this product to help keep you in Ketosis as stated. - Again I appreciate everyone on the site as your feedback has meant to the world to me on this journey.


(Joey) #2

Never heard of this stuff before. Just read the ingredients.
My reaction: “Just eat correctly and stick to low carbs.” :vulcan_salute:


#3

And… there it is lol - thanks


(Joey) #4

Sounds like you’re doing quite well using the gifts you’ve inherited naturally. Keep up the great work on your health!


#5

I don’t see anything particularly wrong with eating exogenous ketones. A lot depends on why you want to do so. For example, an older person who has been in continuous ketosis for several years and registers lower ketones, like sub-0.5 mMols, could very well benefit. Supplementing ketones has been shown in studies to increase brain health and reduce brain deterioration, even among the very elderly who have already suffered significant decline - and even those who are not in ketosis. Dr. Ben Bikman has numerous videos about the value of higher ketones for brain health. I think similarly, if you’re in maintenance and want to boost your ketone level a bit, supplementing could be advantageous.

On the other hand, if you’re struggling to lose weight I suspect supplementing ketones won’t help much. As many times as it has been said, eating low/no carbs will get you into ketosis and will keep you there. Supplementing ketones will not enhance your own lipolysis - and lipolysis is what you need to lose your own stored fat.

Stuff that will enhance your own lipolysis include coconut oil and specifically coconut MCT oil which has been ‘fractionated’ to concentrate the C8 and C10 saturated fats that specifically enhance lipolysis. Drinking citrate in the form of unsweetened lemon or lime juice will provide a necessary molecular ingredient required for lipolysis, as will drinking diluted vinegar which will supply the molecular components of acetyl - various molecules - that are required for lipolysis. In fact, the metabolism of vinegar ends in acetoacetate.

I suspect, coconut oil, and even MCT, lemon/lime juice and vinegar are way cheaper than the product you’re asking about. And are way more useful in boosting your own lipolysis - which is what you want.

There are other ‘fat burning’ proprietary concoctions out there as well. I doubt they work any better than coconut, citrate and acetic acid.

Hope this helps.


#6

Any suggestions from anyone on products (Sold in Stores) or even a home made recipe for this?


(Joey) #7

Absent a specific health concern where supplementing with exogenous BHB is intended as a therapeutic, eating ketones makes little sense to me.

A body that’s producing ketones is the mark of a healthy metabolic system. To me, that’s the goal - i.e., developing a healthy self-supporting body.

Getting an “A+” on an exam by having someone else feed you the answers may help you pass the course. But it does not indicate that you’ve accomplished the larger goal of learning anything.


#8

I just gave you a ‘homemade recipe’: coconut/MCT oil, lemon/lime juice and vinegar. NOT together, of course. By themselves 2-3 times per day. You can mix the coconut/MCT oil with food, very mild flavours, MCT has zero flavour, tastes kinda like ‘heavy water’. I drink mine in my morning ‘keto coffee’. I drink lime juice about an hour before my meals and dilute vinegar about an hour afterwards.

I just duckducked ‘Juvenescence Metabolic Switch Fuel Powder - C6 Ketone Di-Ester’ to know what you’re talking about. US$4.37 per serving! Enough said. If you could drink that one time and gain eternal youth, go for it. In the real world, though, the cost far outweighs the benefits. You get elevated ketones for a couple hours per dose - not a big deal unless you’re an Alzheimer patient.

Just google or duckduck ‘fat burning supplements’.


#9

I’m all for Exogenous Ketones, but nothing makes you make more of them other than low carbs and a requirement for fuel to be made. The whole “metabolic switch” is just marketing BS.

Exogenous Ketones are awesome for energy, they’re a nootropic, they help appetite control but high ketones don’t speed up fat loss, and that’s what most are after them for. If you have a medical condition that actually benefits from high ketone levels (or just like the effects) they’re great. Otherwise, expensive and the real effect for the majority can be copied with much cheaper products.